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If you hold your shield and lightly press different directions on the control stick, you will notice that the shield will move slightly in whatever direction you are pressing the control stick.
MKs tornado pokes the upper part of your shield. If you tilt your shield upwards he can't shieldstab you anymore (unless your shield is very small already). If you don't tilt your shield upwars its upper part will be too small to block the tornado.
then what does jj mean here?Falco:
-Learn to DI and tech the CG -> Spike 100% of the time. It's def. worth it because you can fight Falco from the getgo instead of just camping. Laser camping the Falco until he starts reflecting the blasters back at you is STUPID. You are giving him a free 30%-40%. Why not just fight him normally (which will result in you actually damaging Falco) and be sure to DI/tech the cg->spike if you make a mistake.
It's 100% possible. I haven't been gimped like that by a falco in a very very very long time... and i fought SK92 yestarday
While your here instead of figuring it out for myself (lol). How exactly do you do it? Are there any caveats or special timings outside of the ordinary?
silence ...sigh =(
oh yeah. Chinese DI. While Falco is chaingrabbing your sorry *** to the edge, start mashing up and towards the stage from where you're getting spiked. I think you mash it with both sticks. So, if you're both moving left, drop the controller and start rolling it between up and right as fast as possible. If it works, you end up on the stage or something weird like that.
sry uh i wuz hyped up on coffee. i couldnt think straight.
It's freaky how much you remind me of myself before I became old and jaded with lifesry uh i wuz hyped up on coffee. i couldnt think straight.
i meant using dair for normal combos
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as a song that is near and dear to my heart says,
Thanks^ Don't get grabbed. Or hit. Or anything like that.
Uhhhhhh... Jumpshine when you're not comfortable, and... space bair? Usmash OoS is good against MK, and if you space a bair badly on Olimar's shield you can shine right after and it should counter his shieldgrab.
Good luck Mith!
. I hope i do ok xD
If Lucario's grabbing you, you're getting waaaaay too close. Also, he has weird vertical grab range. Watch out for that.
Yea I think you're right about outspacing lucario in the air, because against most lucarios I was ok when I spaced my bairs correctly. Thanks for the info about DIing out of Rob's fair and SDIing out of Falco's chain spike. I hadn't known those xD.._. This is bad, I don't know the Lucario matchup either lol. JJ usually says something about jumpshine ****, though. Bair outranges a lot of lucario's stuff as well, I think they get pissed when we start outranging them in the air.
For ROB's fair, in case you weren't before, be sure to save your second jump and DI up. That should help out. You can tech out of Falco's spike by SDI'ing into the stage with both sticks to hit the edge, but... I'm not too good at it, so maybe I'm wrong.
Actually it's qcdi for falco's cg spike. I kinda suck at qcdi and will continue to practice it because falco cg is stupid. The alternative to not getting cg spiked is platform camping (ban fd always). As long as I'm not under a lucario (dair) they get ***** in the air. Even sometimes if I'm under the wolf uair will hit but you still may recieve minor damage from the first part of the lucario dair. And rob isnt that bad a matchup anyway. If rob is in the air juggle him. He has a blind spot on his bottom.
qcdi is quarter circle DI right? Is the wolf vs Rob matchup really in favor of wolf? It seems to me that his fair outspaces wolf's bair (but its maybe cause im not spacing perfectly yet). The main reason I lost to rob is cause he kept on gimping me with fair (i only take solace in the fact that he was one of the best robs in the country). But I think what ishiey said above about saving the second jump and DIing out should help.
ROB is a super pain in the *** for Wolf. Ftilt outranges everything, his grab range is much much farther than Wolf's, messing up a punisher = free dsmash, and you're gonna get ***** if you leave the stage.
Yes.
No.
Fair does outspace almost every move, don't even try to attack it. Shield & punish bad spacing.
This is easy to do when you get the timing right. In fact somethimes all you have to do is DI towards the ledge and you'll actually land onto the stage itself.You can tech out of Falco's spike by SDI'ing into the stage with both sticks to hit the edge, but... I'm not too good at it, so maybe I'm wrong.
ok lol that's what I thought :0 . As for the qcDI on Falco's chain spike. So you don't need to do any sort of SDI?
I didn't say the matchup was in wolf's favor. I think it is 50-50. I don't know what the matchup thread put as the matchup itself.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!. You don't want to be on the ground against rob. He is **** in the air. He is great on the ground. His fair may outspace alot, but from my rob experience I don't get why people think rob fair is so good. It isn't like gonna destroy wolf. Fair+Uair+Usmash. Get rob in the air. I'll go verse a rob and record to show a match I guess.
Make sure they space dat shiat like a boss. Noob ROBs are fine because you can just throw on your awesome face and bair them all day, but if they know the matchup it gets ******** hard to hit them.
Idk if this helps, but this is the rob I was playing.
Well this makes it different. T0mmy is possibly one of the best robs in the country. I think he is in the top 3 for robs. Most robs aren't this good. From what I can remember he got 13th at genesis.
