PentaSalia
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has anyone srly try it yet tho? lol
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Hat Dancing is what I used instead of DACUS for the Watch
DeliciousDave
Smash Cadet
hat dancing? and somebody should try out the new dacus out for game and watch! i dont have a wii currently so yyeeaaaa
Zekeishere
Smash Ace
What is Hat Dancing?
And someone please try the new DACUS with G&W.
And someone please try the new DACUS with G&W.
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Smash Journeyman
Hat Dancing (it might be called something else, but I calls it Hat Dancing) is performing a up-smash while dashing to have a sliding up-smash, and repeating this across the entire stage back and forth.
Zekeishere
Smash Ace
So its not anything special? Just some name for a spammy tactic that don't work offline. Lol.
Sounds like a Hyphen Usmash to me.
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I like Hat Dancing haha.
But anyhow Up-smash too good srsly.
But anyhow Up-smash too good srsly.
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Smash Journeyman
It actually does work online, I won a ladder match that way
Lightning Tiger
Smash Apprentice
No he never did. His Dash attack stops all his momentum, so he doesn't get a boost out of it.
Megavitamins
Smash Champion
Noob. Dacus works for all characters, however some characters don't get a slide at all, making it useless. G&W is one of these characters.
Mr. Escalator
G&W Guru
Completely unnecessary explanation of my answer to another. Thanks for explaining the obvious that G&W gains no benefit from the Dacus and that he gains no benefit from this new way to perform the Dacus.
Come back when you wanna be useful.
DeliciousDave
Smash Cadet
lets all calm down and get along people, were here to help game and watch not insult people :D, so dacus has no effect on game and watch glad we cleared it up
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Smash Journeyman
HEY!!!
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Anonymous Brawler
Smash Journeyman
Me too!
What is the new way to perform DACUS? And wich characters gain benefit from it?
Mr. Escalator
G&W Guru
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=264193
The first post along with the video in said post should give you an idea of how to do the new DACUS.
The characters who benefit from this, as far as I know, were all the characters who benefited from the old DACUS technique. This is just an alternate way of doing a frame perfect DACUS, it looks like. Going by your icon, Falco has a pretty awesome one.
The first post along with the video in said post should give you an idea of how to do the new DACUS.
The characters who benefit from this, as far as I know, were all the characters who benefited from the old DACUS technique. This is just an alternate way of doing a frame perfect DACUS, it looks like. Going by your icon, Falco has a pretty awesome one.
Anonymous Brawler
Smash Journeyman
Thank you. Too bad that G&W cant do it
(I know that every char can do it, but not all get a boost, so dont start flaming)
Lightning Tiger
Smash Apprentice
Falco is not generally used in teams but:
Falco and GaW can use:
1. Bucket + Lazer - for easy damage and KO's (possible)
2. CG's into smash attacks/ judgement
3. Throw into spikes+ Tech chasing
4. Grabs into DACUS/ New DACUS
Falco contributes:
Quick damage with lasers + stun time.
Really short CG's but can lead to KO's
Spikes for tech chase
Gaw contributes:
KOs + Prevent Falco from getting gimped with upair
Stock tank (possible?)
Quick damage with all aerials
Juggling ( Nair + UpB + Up Air)
Tech chasing opportunities (Gaw's Dthrow)
Gaw basically prevents falco from getting gimped a lot. Not a lot of outstanding things. Like strong bucket. But Tech chasing, Grabs, Lasers will make them pretty good teammates.
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Teaming with Fox is more worthwhile than teaming with Falco as far as I'm concerned, since Fox destroys people a lot faster and his higher mobility provides better support (like idk, say he pivot grabs someone and then you Up-smash lol).
Although idk how, but I've seen DEHF **** teams with his Falco lol. I almost beat him and Bigfoot in teams. Almost...except DEHF stopped me from making a 2v1 comeback lol.
Although idk how, but I've seen DEHF **** teams with his Falco lol. I almost beat him and Bigfoot in teams. Almost...except DEHF stopped me from making a 2v1 comeback lol.
also G&W can bucket Falco's CGs
kaak
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Lightning Tiger
Smash Apprentice
I think he meant Falco can CG and Gaw can release a bucket on the "victim".
Mr. Escalator
G&W Guru
He is actually referring to being able to bucket the lasers from Falco's down throw.
Lightning Tiger
Smash Apprentice
Wait serious?
Will the lasers still hit the grabbed person?
Will the lasers still hit the grabbed person?
Yes that's what I meant. Thank You
Yes
For example 2 vs 1, Falco can CG the opponent while G&W can bucket Falco's dthrows and wait for Falco's spike and deliver his Oil Panic.
Lightning Tiger
Smash Apprentice
Please don't double post. Just edit your previous response.
Hm. I should start trying to team with a falco then. This should be sweet.
Hm. I should start trying to team with a falco then. This should be sweet.
It's still much easier to absorb the normal lasers from Falco. Even then, the bucket does so little damage and doesn't kill to ridiculously high percents. I do like being able to have a super far-ranged attack though...
Falco's bthrow and fthrow lasers in a bucket will do only 18%
Falco's normal laser (B) in a bucket will do 25%
Not sure about dthrow...
One cool trick I like to do while teaming with someone that has crappy energy projectiles (fox, falco, bowser, peach, etc...) is to not try and get a bucket at all. Instead, I'll try and get one of the opponent's strong projectiles (like aura sphere or luigi's fireball or zss dsmash) and THEN after only getting one of those, I fill the rest of the bucket with lasers or something weak. Sure it's not as powerful as it could be, but it's still a really strong attack that kills sooner than most of my slow smashes anyway. And it's a lot easier to get than 3 aura spheres or w/e.
Falco's bthrow and fthrow lasers in a bucket will do only 18%
Falco's normal laser (B) in a bucket will do 25%
Not sure about dthrow...
One cool trick I like to do while teaming with someone that has crappy energy projectiles (fox, falco, bowser, peach, etc...) is to not try and get a bucket at all. Instead, I'll try and get one of the opponent's strong projectiles (like aura sphere or luigi's fireball or zss dsmash) and THEN after only getting one of those, I fill the rest of the bucket with lasers or something weak. Sure it's not as powerful as it could be, but it's still a really strong attack that kills sooner than most of my slow smashes anyway. And it's a lot easier to get than 3 aura spheres or w/e.
TheHebrewHammer
Smash Apprentice
Hey guys, since it's hard to hit with GaWs smashes, what other moves do you prefer to kill with? I kill with either fair, dair, or utilt depending on the character weight. Utilt kills light opponents at 145 or so, so I like to keep it fresh. I'll kill heavies with dair at around 150 and Fair at 130 or so.
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Toad.
tenbuckets
tenbuckets
cemo
white walker
yeah, you bucket the toad spores.
which... doesn't happen very often? in singles it can only happen through chef.
which... doesn't happen very often? in singles it can only happen through chef.
Lightning Tiger
Smash Apprentice
I always just gimp them with fair.
how do you set up for u tilts at all?
I barely get u tilt kills.
how do you set up for u tilts at all?
I barely get u tilt kills.
derkapalooza
Smash Journeyman
so what is everyone's opinions about a g&w/lucario team? i know both characters are good in dubs for there own reason, but how does everyone feel this team should play?
izzy24
Smash Ace
can u guys help me out with this: im fighting ZSS and sometimes i find myself in a situation where im at the ledge, the ZSS will space so well that he can spam sideb tip, i cant hit him with nair cause he's too far, if i time the sideb and try to punish i get jab and im on the ledge again (1 frame jabs r amazing), if i jump i get upair and possibly die, and if i mess up on the timing and get sideb i die, WTH do i do???????
the only thing that kinda worked was to upb (so like invisibilty to invisibility LOL) but even then im in a bad position to get upair.
the only thing that kinda worked was to upb (so like invisibilty to invisibility LOL) but even then im in a bad position to get upair.
MagicJosh
Smash Apprentice
there really aren't any set-ups for utilts, but it does last just a tad long enough to hit people constantly using SH airdodges. If they are over you, it's usually better to just up-b with invincibility, just don't get predictable with it.
Just curious, when you are recovering from high up, do you ever use bucket or judgement to change directions to recover using turtle? I use it every now and then, and it's fine and all, but what do guys think of that?