Best stages for PM Ness?

[epm425]

What should I look for in a stage ban? Are there any maps that need special attention for certain matchups?

 

[KyroChao]

Make sure you go to wuhu island immediately

Uh, i'd say lylat may be a potentially bad stage for ness but im not sure

 

[epm425]

Do you mean Project M? I should correct that in the title haha

 

[KyroChao]

Project m yes, the wuhu island thing was a joke

 

[epm425]

Oh I see haha. Why do you say Lylat may be bad?

 

[KyroChao]

Eh, im not that familiar with PM at the moment but i think lylat still has its tilting yes? If not lylat might not seem as bad but i feel like it might be easier to screw up a recovery there even if there is no tilt

 

[epm425]

That's true. I would probobly get caught under the stage alot and lose an early stock.

 

[Akhenderson]

Lylat is bad.
Final Destination, Smashville, Dreamland, Norfair, and PS2 are all solid.
YI:B feels a lot more doable because although his pk fire game gets weakened a little, you have a few tricks you can do to keep yourself alive because of how god awful his recovery is, and it screws up certain match ups like Marth because of the slants. This counterpick stage should be practiced on to keep in your back pocket.
Warioware's liking is dependant on the player. I personally love it because the platforms allow tech chases for days. Some people don't like it however for other reasons.

 

[Tofurkey]

I've done a lot of work trying to figure out the best stage for Ness and I'm pretty sure it's Fountain of Dreams. The platforms aid in his approach options which he otherwise lacks. The position of the stage also makes his u-air a much more viable kill option, and doesn't really take anything away considering Ness doesn't often kill downwards as often. The length of Ness' recovery also means he can chase really far off the ledge.

 

[silkys]

Ban Skyworld and Lylat always. Terrible stages for Ness' recovery (assuming you like me and you mess up sweet spotting the ledge). Personally not a big fan of Norfair or PS2 because of the same reasons, but they're much more lenient than the former with the whole recovery thing. Generally I'd say you'd like to pick stages with platforms like Battlefield's or walls that you can ride up with PKT.

 

[GMaster171]

I personally enjoy Skyworld, and will more after his recovery is fixed in the patch. Once you get past the "I **** up", it actually offers Ness probably one of the best chances among the stages.

I personally hate any stage with slants and FOD due to the fact I wont always have access to all my DJC options, but thats just me.

 

[epm425]

Warioware's liking is dependant on the player. I personally love it because the platforms allow tech chases for days. Some people don't like it however for other reasons.

I agree that Ness's tech chases are supreme on this stage. With so little room Ness has an easy time following up and finishing his combos, making his combo game deadly on this stage. The only issue I have with it is that certain matchups turn this stage around completely (Bowser) and Ness just gets early KO'd due to being Ness. What are your thoughts on stage choices in matchups like these?

 

[epm425]

I've done a lot of work trying to figure out the best stage for Ness and I'm pretty sure it's Fountain of Dreams. The platforms aid in his approach options which he otherwise lacks. The position of the stage also makes his u-air a much more viable kill option, and doesn't really take anything away considering Ness doesn't often kill downwards as often. The length of Ness' recovery also means he can chase really far off the ledge.

Can you explain the aid that FoD's platform's gives to ness's approach options? I'm not sure I get it haha

 

[epm425]

I personally enjoy Skyworld, and will more after his recovery is fixed in the patch. Once you get past the "I **** up", it actually offers Ness probably one of the best chances among the stages.

Why Skyworld? I've always had trouble with the platforms overhanging and I always feel like i'll be edgeguarded more easily.

 

[Boiko]

I like Lylat, especially against spacies, but it is definitely really hard.

 

[epm425]

I like Lylat, especially against spacies, but it is definitely really hard.

Why do you say Lylat against spacies? I feel as though the platforms would interrupt chaingrabs and leave Ness with fewer options to rack %.

 

[Boiko]

I prefer platform tech chases over chain grabs and the length and height of the platforms allow Ness to cover almost every tech option. Also, the stage really hurts spacie's recoveries. And I'm all about limiting their recovery options since you basically have to kill them when they're off stage all the time.

 

[epm425]

I prefer platform tech chases over chain grabs and the length and height of the platforms allow Ness to cover almost every tech option. Also, the stage really hurts spacie's recoveries. And I'm all about limiting their recovery options since you basically have to kill them when they're off stage all the time.

I see. I'll keep this is mind for stage choices in the spacie MU

 

[Ninjagamer1234]

I always take people to PS2 I find that to be a great Ness stage

 

[choknater]

my favorite stages are green hill zone because it's like a small FD with a wall, and wario ware because i can recover/tech chase on the platforms giving me many options

FD because it's easy to combo there

 

[Red(SP)]

Really surprised no one said Yoshi's Story.

 

[Boiko]

Really surprised no one said Yoshi's Story.

Eh, works both ways. I like it, and I don't like it.

 

[JustDan]

Really surprised no one said Yoshi's Story.

It works in certain matchups. It can be awful in others though.