Brawl+ in Japan | JP Beta Build (GSH1) released

[GHNeko]

Why havnt they posted here yet? ;__;

 

[timothyung]

You say they use slightly higer hitlag than us, although that's mostly because they're so norcal pro and love their SDI rofl...

but have any of them uploaded their own videos?

I haven't seen any of them uploading their Brawl+ videos

Why havnt they posted here yet? ;__;

Of course, they lack translators like us...at least we have arkaether

 

[2ch User]

>Of course, they lack translators.
Yes.We lack translators.

There are some and asking for you.
"New Pork City is now Online Waiting Room"
"Online Handicap Disable"
Would you port to Japanese version?We could not port these codes.

(はい。翻訳者がほとんどいません。

お願いがあります。
"New Pork City is now Online Waiting Room"
"Online Handicap Disable"
これらのコードを日本版に変換してくれませんか？　私（私達）では変換できませんでした。今、変換してくれる人もほとんどこちらにいません)

 

[timothyung]

Good, there's someone who's decent in English in Japan.
I already sent messages to Almas and paprika killer, the two main coders here. Hopefully they'll port the two codes soon.
And would you mind posting here more often? We would like to communicate more with Japan.

 

[Deleted member]

hmm, I lack a JPN dump so I can't really help with the porting. I know almas has a dump but he's kinda busy lately.

if the japanese coder can make a MEM1 dump and send that to me, I could help out.

 

[Almas]

>Of course, they lack translators.
Yes.We lack translators.

There are some and asking for you.
"New Pork City is now Online Waiting Room"
"Online Handicap Disable"
Would you port to Japanese version?We could not port these codes.

(はい。翻訳者がほとんどいません。

お願いがあります。
"New Pork City is now Online Waiting Room"
"Online Handicap Disable"
これらのコードを日本版に変換してくれませんか？　私（私達）では変換できませんでした。今、変換してくれる人もほとんどこちらにいません)

I must assume that if you have trouble porting them, there is another step that is complicating things. But...

Online Handicap Disable
046F38E8 60000000

I'm sure you noticed the New Pork City code is actually two simple codes combined.

New Pork -> Online Waiting
C298D068 00000003
2C060031 40820008
38C00005 60000000
90DD08C0 00000000
C265CA24 00000003
A37A0022 2C1B0020
40820008 3B600037
60000000 00000000

It's probable you've tried these, and they don't work and I've missed the point.

Thanks for your great work on Brawl+.

EDIT: I forgot to mention - it's possible that my memory dumps have been slightly corrupted by some of my playing around with them. So I might be 4-8 units out in either direction at times.

 

[Arkaether]

Just a better translation of what he said since the English was kind of rough:

はい。翻訳者がほとんどいません。

お願いがあります。
"New Pork City is now Online Waiting Room"
"Online Handicap Disable"
これらのコードを日本版に変換してくれませんか？　私（私達）では変換できませんでした。今、変換してくれる人もほとんどこちらにいません

Yes, there aren't many translators.

I have a request.
"New Pork City is now Online Waiting Room"
"Online Handicap Disable"
Could you please port these codes over to Japanese? I (We) were unable to port these. Right now, we don't have many porters on our side.

 

[timothyung]

http://schiphol.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gameurawaza/1244983544/
For you guys who don't know, this is the 2ch page of Brawl+ (ignore the spelling error)
If I am not mistaken the "2ch User" here is 僕, aka the guy who made the wiki and made the JP Brawl+ codeset. And he came here for help because Kenta is busy...
OK, I scanned through the page and there are a few questions/things they want to ask. So I guess I'll answer them here:

Wario's chaingrab: If I remembered correctly, we tried to fix it by adding a few frames to his down throw animation, but due to glitches, it was removed. It can't be fixed by now.

Dash speed increase: It should be the effect of Frame Speed Modifier. It is an intended effect. Every character's dash speed is increased to 1.17x. See here, Gameplay Settings Changes, Dash Speed for more information.

Samus's Forward smash, tilts: Her forward smash is already buffed. KBG to 90 from 100, BKB to 56 from 20. And Luigi's Mansion is a big stage, so KO's will naturally be at higher percentages.

To the Japanese: If you have any questions, feel free to ask here. It'll be best to include both the English translation and Japanese like what 2ch User did, or if your English is not good, just post in Japanese here. We have a decent translator too.

 

[2ch User]

Thank you for porting.
"Online Handicap Disable" code is affecting gameplay.But New Pork -> Online Waiting code is not working...
I do not have USB GECKO. So I do not dump and send a MEM1. Therefore I asked KENTA and Reis to send MEM1 to me. Please wait only a little more.

（お願いを聞いてくれてありがとうございます。
"Online Handicap Disable"のコードは動作してました。しかし、 New Pork -> Online Waitingコードは動作しませんでした･･･。
私はUSB GECKO持ってないのでMEM1のデータを渡すことができません。（私の変換作業は、単に、規則性からコードの数字を少しだけ変えてるだけです。）そこで、私よりも変換作業に詳しい人（KENTAさん,Reisさん）にMEM1のデータを送ってくれるように頼みました。もう少しだけ待ってください。）

 

[timothyung]

Well I tested the New Pork -> Online Waiting code. Although picking New Pork City doesn't take you to Online Waiting Room, Sandbags are replaced by dollar bills. So part of it is working.

 

[GHNeko]

Did anyone see these?

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7535041
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7501954
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7479143
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7517742
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7475740

 

[HMWii22]

Greetings, friends. First I want to thank everyone for their efforts on this translation project. I wish I were competent enough to contribute myself

I've been having issues with the code sets that have been posted, though I should mention that I'm new to Brawl+ in general so it's possible I've done something incorrectly. In any case, when I play with these codes the following happens:
- items are completely and utterly gone, even if you switch them on in the menu. This also includes Link's bombs, Snake's nades, Peach's radishes etc. - basically any thrown item.
- the game crashes to a loud beeping sound requiring a 5sec-button-hold hard reboot when certain moves are performed. The ones I've noticed are:
- because I'm so new to B+ I have a small frame of reference but it's POSSIBLE... that some of the gravity or maybe the jump values are funny? I could be wrong about this one though, as it's more of a "sense" I'm getting than anything conclusive.

I have read the thread, and I noticed the problems with the NPC -> Waiting Room and Online Handicap Disable codes. I don't give a flying hoot about either of those so I just deleted them from gameconfig.txt (I have one in the root and another in the \codes\ directory... can someone confirm which one is read by Gecko?). Unfortunately this has resulted in no changes to the aforementioned bugs.

So has anyone found a working fix?
Thanks! <3

PS - those are entertaining videos :D I love trying to infer what's being said even though I can pick out only the odd word.

 

[timothyung]

Try the newest codeset.
Nightly Builds 6-26
http://www15.atwiki.jp/timesplus/pages/17.html
Items disappearing is due to a bad port of the New Pork code, the gravity should be fine in the newest codeset and the beeping shouldn't happen either. These three things should all be fixed in the newest version.
The gameconfig.txt is read from the root of the SD card.

 

[Almas]

New Pork -> Online Waiting
C298D068 00000003
2C060031 40820008
38C00005 60000000
90DD08C0 00000000
C26DCA24 00000003
A37A0022 2C1B0020
40820008 3B600037
60000000 00000000

 

[GHNeko]

Almaaaaaas. The Japanese are saying Yatta to you. <3

 

[timothyung]

Good job Almas. Tested and working

 

[Arkaether]

Almas, I love you so much right now.

/nohomo

 

[timothyung]

So now everything is working for the JP version of Brawl+... except one thing. The MK grounded tornado. It can somehow rise a lot. Any idea for this?

 

[2ch User]

YATTAAAaaaaaaaa!!!!!
Thank you, Almas! And Everybody overseas.

 

[VietGeek]

So now everything is working for the JP version of Brawl+... except one thing. The MK grounded tornado. It can somehow rise a lot. Any idea for this?

We have to see where the code that affects that is. Then it'll have to be re-ported. *shrug*

Also a glitch:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7479143

Starts at 11:20

Lagless zair...<___<

Probably various other issues too. IDK if it was fixed though.

I'll be able to playtest the JP ports starting next week so I can help out with bugtesting.

 

[GPDP]

Those videos on nicovideo are great, especially the ones that showcase the various running and falling speed changes. Just what we need to show some of the changes made in Brawl+.

Anyway, good to see the Japanese joining us.

 

[GHNeko]

<3 Japan. They brough us pocky!

What hitlag do they use in JP?

 

[timothyung]

They're using 50% hitlag, the same as ours.

Oh and I think the reason that they aren't updating the CSS is either the forgot about it or don't know how to update it... so I'll post the updated one here.

CURRENT US CSS, aka updated one

Yeroc's Custom CSS V3 [Ported by KENTA3753]
* 06682C6C 00000030
* 387E006C 3B600000
* 3C808068 38840DE0
* 7CBB20AE 7CA50775
* 41800014 94A30004
* 3B7B0001 2C1B0032
* 4180FFE8 48000038
* 0468FE98 48000068
* 0668FC38 00000008
* 2C170028 41820168
* 02680DE0 0022FFFF
* 06680DE0 00000029
* 00090D0C 0515011A
* 0A071325 1002240E
* 0F140616 1F172903
* 040B1908 23201B5D
* 5E5C1121 18221226
* 27000000 00000000

CURRENT JP CSS

Yeroc's Custom CSS V3 [Ported by KENTA3753]
* 06682C6C 00000030
* 387E006C 3B600000
* 3C808068 38840DE0
* 7CBB20AE 7CA50775
* 41800014 94A30004
* 3B7B0001 2C1B0032
* 4180FFE8 48000038
* 0468FE98 48000068
* 0668FC38 00000008
* 2C170028 41820168
* 02680DE0 0022FFFF
* 06680DE0 0000002B
* 2800090D 050C150A
* 28071325 1002240E
* 0F140616 1F172903
* 04011A08 23201B5D
* 5E5C1121 0B191822
* 12262700 00000000

 

[2ch User]

I have some questions.
1:What effects are "Launch Power Modifier" and "Grav Values Modifier" codes?
2:I seem that the code of "No Autosweetspot Ledges" doesn't work for Lucario,in the JP version of Brawl+. Is it same as the US version of B+?
lol:CPU's Luigi is very strong. How do I do?
Could you please answer any questions?

（いくつか質問があります。
1:"Launch Power Modifier"と"Grav Values Modifier"の効果って何ですか？
2:"No Autosweetspot Ledges"のコードは、ルカリオに対しては作用してないように見えます。USバージョンのBrawl+でも同じですか？
あと、CPルイージが強すぎますｗ　どうすればいいでしょうか？
もしよろしければ、答えてくれませんか？）

 

[timothyung]

I have some questions.
1:What effects are "Launch Power Modifier" and "Grav Values Modifier" codes?
2:I seem that the code of "No Autosweetspot Ledges" doesn't work for Lucario,in the JP version of Brawl+. Is it same as the US version of B+?
lol:CPU's Luigi is very strong. How do I do?
Could you please answer any questions?

（いくつか質問があります。
1:"Launch Power Modifier"と"Grav Values Modifier"の効果って何ですか？
2:"No Autosweetspot Ledges"のコードは、ルカリオに対しては作用してないように見えます。USバージョンのBrawl+でも同じですか？
あと、CPルイージが強すぎますｗ　どうすればいいでしょうか？
もしよろしければ、答えてくれませんか？）

I can't answer question 1 as I don't really understand those codes, but I can answer question 2.

No Autosweetspot Ledges doesn't work for Lucario in all versions. This is because Lucario is write-protected, that means the code cannot affect him. Lucario's sweetspot and other character's sweetspot are differently programmed.

CPU Luigi: CPU Luigi is already the strongest CPU in vBrawl (vanilla Brawl, a.k.a. Normal Brawl). Try improving yourself to beat him. He is currently very hard to combo because he is floaty/falls slowly, and has relatively low hitstun. We're planning to increase his hitstun when we have the code.

Oh, and don't forget updating the CSS. The code is posted on above. The current CSS should look like this:

 

[Almas]

I have some questions.
1:What effects are "Launch Power Modifier" and "Grav Values Modifier" codes?
2:I seem that the code of "No Autosweetspot Ledges" doesn't work for Lucario,in the JP version of Brawl+. Is it same as the US version of B+?
lol:CPU's Luigi is very strong. How do I do?
Could you please answer any questions?

Launch Power Modifier makes all characters Dash faster, and makes people jump and fall at different speeds.
SH: Short Hop
FH: Full Hop
FF: Fast Fall
DGrav: Downwards Gravity (in effect when going down or when hit)
Grav: All Gravity

Character Specific Gravity and Jump Power Modifications
Chara	ID	SH	FH	FF	DGrav	Grav	Filler
Mario	0	0.900	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
DK	1	0.850	1.000	1.400	1.000	1.000	0
Link	2	1.050   1.100   1.075   1.025   1.100	0
Samus	3	0.900	1.025	1.300	1.175	1.000	0
Yoshi	4	1.050	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.000	0
Kirby	5	1.000	1.000	1.100	1.000	1.000	0
Fox	6	0.900	1.050	1.150	1.200	1.100	0
Pikachu	7	1.000	1.000	1.150	1.000	1.000	0
Luigi	8	0.950	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
Falcon	9	0.900	1.050	1.150	1.200	1.100	0
Ness	A	1.075	1.050	1.150	1.075	1.150	0
Bowser	B	0.950	0.950	1.200	1.025	0.950	0
Peach	C	0.950	1.050	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
Zelda	D	0.900	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
Sheik	E	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.150	1.050	0
Clim 	F	0.800	1.050	1.300	1.000	1.000	0
Marth	11	1.150	1.125	1.075	1.025	1.200	0
G&W	12	1.000	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
Falco	13	0.900	1.050	1.150	1.200	1.100	0
Ganon	14	1.025	1.050	1.100	1.000	1.000	0
Wario	15	1.000	1.000	1.200	1.000	1.000	0
MK	16	0.900	1.000	1.300	1.100	0.950	0
Pit	17	1.000	1.025	1.200	1.000	1.025	0
ZSS	18	0.900	1.000	1.200	1.050	1.000	0
Olimar	19	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
Lucas	1A	1.025	1.025	1.300	1.050	1.025	0
Diddy	1B	0.950	1.025	1.200	1.150	1.050	0
Chariz	1D	1.000	1.025	1.200	1.150	0.950	0
Squirt	1E	0.900	1.050	1.300	1.050	1.000	0
Ivysaur	1F	1.025	1.025	1.200	1.050	1.000	0
Dedede	20	1.000	1.025	1.150	0.950	1.000	0
Lucario	21	1.050	1.100	1.075	1.025	1.200	0
Ike	22	1.000	1.050	1.100	1.025	1.025	0
ROB	23	1.000	1.025	1.200	1.150	1.050	0
Jiggs	25	0.950	1.000	1.300	1.000	1.000	0
Toony	29	1.000	1.000	1.300	1.150	1.000	0
Wolf	2C	1.025	1.025	1.200	0.850	1.100	0
Snake	2E	0.950	1.100	1.200	1.175	1.050	0
Sonic	2F	0.950	1.000	1.300	1.250	1.000	0

Gravity Modifier changes their gravity value and also makes Metaknight heavier in tornado, and increases the distance Link's Up+B moves.

Yes, Lucario is not affected by the autosweetspot code.

Luigi CPU is very powerful, yes.

No problem on the codes, I'm glad to help y'all ;p. I'm just too lazy to do real codes...

 

[timothyung]

Oh so that means the Grav/Jump Value needs both the Launch Power Modifier and the Gravity Modifier to work? And why is Launch Power Modifier called Launch Power Modifier? And why in the JP version, Metaknight's grounded tornado can rise a lot, but his aerial one cannot rise? If the codes are correctly ported his grounded tornado should only be able to rise a bit.

 

[Almas]

Hmm. That is an odd bug, but I know why it would be caused.

Oh, I know EXACTLY why it would be caused. That'll require a change of the code. Feh. Too lazy.

 

[Deleted member]

that "bug" with the tonado is also in the PAL version, maybe just in all of them. me and my bro concluded that the grounded version makes a bounce that snets him high.

I have no clue how to edit it though, so let's just hope almas will do it

 

[PanzerOceania]

yeah, seriously, if we can get brawl+ big in japan the devs will actually notice what we want and how dedicated we are.

 

[timothyung]

that "bug" with the tonado is also in the PAL version, maybe just in all of them. me and my bro concluded that the grounded version makes a bounce that snets him high.

I have no clue how to edit it though, so let's just hope almas will do it

The bounce is in the US version too, but he doesn't rise as high. Just wait for Almas

 

[2ch User]

Thank you for answering my questions.

http://www.brawlplus.net/downloads/ComprehensiveChangelist.txt
Ness
-"Second Jump frames 0 to 2, 2x; gives ness a zap jump ability for recovery"
What meaning is it?

（-"Second Jump frames 0 to 2, 2x; gives ness a zap jump ability for recovery"
これはどういう意味でしょうか？DJC=Double Jump Cancelのことでしょうか？だとするとDJCは日本版ではできないのでどこかに変換ミスがある、ということになりますよね？）

 

[GHNeko]

Thank you for answering my questions.

http://www.brawlplus.net/downloads/ComprehensiveChangelist.txt
Ness
-"Second Jump frames 0 to 2, 2x; gives ness a zap jump ability for recovery"
What meaning is it?

（-"Second Jump frames 0 to 2, 2x; gives ness a zap jump ability for recovery"
これはどういう意味でしょうか？DJC=Double Jump Cancelのことでしょうか？だとするとDJCは日本版ではできないのでどこかに変換ミスがある、ということになりますよね？）

Ness can Zap Jump like Lucas now.

 

[timothyung]

Zap Jump is the act of jumping and using PK Fire at the same time.
Here's a demonstration of Lucas' Zap Jump: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t50h6zfkuUE
Ness' Zap Jump is more horizontal but not as vertical.

Oh and are you the Japanese translating the changelist in brawlplus.net? If you have the time, translating the whole brawlplus.net into Japanese would be a good idea. We can just make a Japanese version of brawlplus.net like what we did with the Spanish version.


EDIT: DJC is Double Jump Cancel. It was removed due to bad reception.

 

[5ive]

Tim, or whoever is running the Brawl+ Nico vid account; check through these vids recorded at a recent Toronto tourney.

Specifically, here is some Pika ****:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uksqM66y0M&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CgE79RcDaI&fmt=18

Also some Holy ****:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvGCthxorzA&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Re2iPVwI50&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXqOPyr5RLg&fmt=18

Just pick whatever is good.

 

[2ch User]

Thank you. I confirmed That Ness can do Zap Jump. By the way, Zap Jump is called PKJ (or PK Fire Jump) in Japan.

Sheik cannot running jump as same as SSBM's Sheik. I thought "Momentum Capture" and "Momentum Capture Data" codes affect running jump. Is running jump affected to other codes?

（シークはスマブラDXのようにダッシュジャンプできません。私は "Momentum Capture" and "Momentum Capture Data" codesでダッシュジャンプできるものと思ってました。ダッシュジャンプは別のコードの影響でしょうか？）

 

[GHNeko]

Thank you. I confirmed That Ness can do Zap Jump. By the way, Zap Jump is called PKJ (or PK Fire Jump) in Japan.

Sheik cannot running jump as same as SSBM's Sheik. I thought "Momentum Capture" and "Momentum Capture Data" codes affect running jump. Is running jump affected to other codes?

（シークはスマブラDXのようにダッシュジャンプできません。私は "Momentum Capture" and "Momentum Capture Data" codesでダッシュジャンプできるものと思ってました。ダッシュジャンプは別のコードの影響でしょうか？）

She can. It is just not as good. It is weaker than in SSBM.

 

[BEES]

Tim, or whoever is running the Brawl+ Nico vid account; check through these vids recorded at a recent Toronto tourney.

Specifically, here is some Pika ****:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uksqM66y0M&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CgE79RcDaI&fmt=18

Also some Holy ****:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvGCthxorzA&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Re2iPVwI50&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXqOPyr5RLg&fmt=18

Just pick whatever is good.

guh, ROB fights are still terribly boring and slow

 

[GHNeko]

He's got no combos, and is mainly a spammy, campy, and extremely defensive character.

He's got mediocre kill power with Good DI. He's heavy as hell and with good DI can live to stupid Brawl percents who has an amazing recovery with Side B and Up B.

He's the incarnate of Brawl in Brawl+. <___>

 

[Alphatron]

He's got no combos, and is mainly a spammy, campy, and extremely defensive character.

He's got mediocre kill power with Good DI. He's heavy as hell and with good DI can live to stupid Brawl percents who has an amazing recovery with Side B and Up B.

He's the incarnate of Brawl in Brawl+. <___>

Dun forget fair gimps. >_>