PND
Smash Champion
Well, Snake isn't the only character who can Snakedash. He's just the best at it 
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Can pound can sweetspot?! [Disproven!]
- Thread starter DJ Kat
- Start date
illinialex24
Smash Hero
Not really, Sheik is a beast at it. This would be a great Sheik killer.Well, Snake isn't the only character who can Snakedash. He's just the best at it
PND
Smash Champion
Sheik's is obnoxiously difficult to do consistently, though. Still quite good, and Sheik was the exact character I had in mind to use this against.
illinialex24
Smash Hero
Yeah, the issue is how dangerous it would be if you missed. It would be hard to do it consistently and so dangerous if you missed...
...Just a question: What are the K.O. percents on those people?
...So Far, I've only come up with these:
Lucario:
~~~~~
Pound - 120% (Could be less)
Mario:
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Pound - 129%
Jigglypuff:
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Pound - 90%
Rest -30%
Rollout - 50%
Yoshi:
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Pound - 135% (Somehwhere around that... I can't remember ~_~)
...So Far, I've only come up with these:
Lucario:
~~~~~
Pound - 120% (Could be less)
Mario:
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Pound - 129%
Jigglypuff:
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Pound - 90%
Rest -30%
Rollout - 50%
Yoshi:
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Pound - 135% (Somehwhere around that... I can't remember ~_~)
PND
Smash Champion
The thing is, from all the Sheiks I've seen (including my own) it's rarely a move used to approach with, it's used as a combo finisher. It's seems hard to hit, but perhaps with a bair out of hitstun* into Pound it's possible. Pound has a bit too much start up lag for me to have any faith in this maneuver, though.
*quick aerials allow you to regain control even faster than airdodging, to anyone who didn't already know. It also lets you survive longer. Keep that in mind, and keep your Jiggs alive!
*quick aerials allow you to regain control even faster than airdodging, to anyone who didn't already know. It also lets you survive longer. Keep that in mind, and keep your Jiggs alive!
illinialex24
Smash Hero
I've seen it used as an approach after I SH at high percentages. It really leaves me the option air-dodge or die.
PND
Smash Champion
Nair. It's how I usually beat it.
EDIT: I guess it depends on the set up, though.
EDIT: I guess it depends on the set up, though.
illinialex24
Smash Hero
Nair sounds like a good, idea didn't think of that. Should come out fast and be safe, nice. I also like rollout on boost smashers lol.
Or you can always do this, it starts 1:07 in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVc-7wUOcVs&fmt=6
PND
Smash Champion
YES!~ OMG That's awesome.
illinialex24
Smash Hero
I know, I'm wondering if this can be used safely... Somehow that clip got skipped over in the combo video process... It was so epic.
And speaking of epic rests:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1JDfKvOerA&fmt=6
I was getting owned by someone who I normally own, so I screwed around a bit. The results were awesome.
Glick
Smash Lord
Wow led zeppelin is so amazing.
Adapt
Smash Lord
I don't mean try it on a c-stick smash... I just mean use the c-stick and the A button together to charge the smash. This removes the chance of DI making it into your results
Crazy Cloud
Smash Journeyman
I think C-Stick and Z works too.
Adapt
Smash Lord
Ok, I made it home, and I'm starting some tests. It looks like we have a genuine bug/glitch here.
Characters clearly fly further when they are hit while charging a smash.
Characters clearly fly further when they are hit while charging a smash.
PND
Smash Champion
Is it Jiggs specific? That'd be nice.
Adapt
Smash Lord
Nope...
Here are some tests I did. I picked different moves and different characters to see what effect if any there was.
Code:
Char. Move % Charge Normal %Change
Ike Fsmash 23% 4213 3510 20.02849003
323% 24793 20661 19.99903199
Samus Charge 26% 2629 2182 20.48579285
326% 15600 12991 20.08313448
Ganon A 9% 2145 1769 21.2549463
309% 12003 9993 20.11407986
Ike Utilt 12% 3784 3153 20.01268633
312% 14558 12132 19.99670293PND
Smash Champion
Interesting. Great find. You should post it on Tactical. . . and give Jiggs mega credit. 
Adapt
Smash Lord
Since DJ Kat discovered it, they should be the one to post it. I just confirmed that it was not character/move specific
Meh, I honestly don't FEEL like posting it on the tactical discussion, so someone else do it.
...Also, this won't work if someone tries to use charged Smash Attacks with the C-Stick. I guess you're right.. it IS bad DI... but they come pretty ****ed close to dying.
...Also, this won't work if someone tries to use charged Smash Attacks with the C-Stick. I guess you're right.. it IS bad DI... but they come pretty ****ed close to dying.
Adapt
Smash Lord
Ok, I'll post it, because it is interesting, and I have never heard of it before. I will references this topic, and I may borrow your vids as a demonstration
illinialex24
Smash Hero
This is pretty awesome, I'll add it to our guide. This is pretty awesome.
Adapt
Smash Lord
PND
Smash Champion
Sweet. Maybe we'll get our 15 minutes of fame and surpass the Boozer boards! (Not likely)
illinialex24
Smash Hero
I'm hoping we will. Should be epic.