Captain Falcon's Alternate Shieldgrab

[Knee Smasher]

We all know how to do a standard shieldgrab with any character: Press A while shielding. In this thread, we will be discussing Captain Falcon's seldom-discussed ALTERNATE shieldgrab, which is performed by press Up B while shielding with tap jump off, as I am honestly surprised by how little discussion there is about this.

Advantages over the standard shieldgrab:

1. Has far better range
2. Can be used to shieldgrab opponents who attack Captain Falcon's shield from behind (by reversing the Up B)
3. Deals significantly more damage than any of Captain Falcon's standard throws

Disadvantages:

1. Takes far longer to come out than his standard shieldgrab
2. It's much more punishable if it misses

Captain Falcon's alternate shieldgrab is valuable for out-of-shield punishing:

1. Attacks where the user lands too far away from Captain Falcon to be punished by a standard shieldgrab, while their ending lag is enough for them to be punished by the alternate shieldgrab, such as Ike's Fair
2. Attacks with big ending lag that hit Captain Falcon's shield from behind, such as King Dedede's dash attack

 

[Warlock*G]

You get a brownie point for that description.

 

[MoonSheep]

I should probably use it more. I mainly use it to punish people spamming counters in the air.

 

[Weeman]

The damage of the throws doesn't matter because throws offer better options after them, Dthrow it's still his best throw to rack up damage with combos, and back throw can be used to gimp.
I agree this one is good to throw around to prevent move stalling, bit it's not something you should think of doing too often.

 

[Mrwhatzitooya]

Interesting... I'd never actually considered his UpB as an alt grab before. I'm going to have to do some experimenting now! I'm sure it'll be very handy to use every now and again. Thanks for highlighting this

 

[BigLord]

I actually consider Falcon Strike the better option of the 3 UpBs, soooo... :\

But this is actually good to have in mind. If your fingers are quick you can do this easily.

 

[Lionman]

Looks interesting, gonna test it

 

[BoBoddy]

Might be good for a mixup, but I wouldn't want to use it more than once or twice in a set due to punishes.

 

[Knee Smasher]

Might be good for a mixup, but I wouldn't want to use it more than once or twice in a set due to punishes.

Every time you shield a laggy attack like King Dedede's dash attack or Ike's Fair, you can punish with Up B unless you mess up. No need to mix it up in some situations as it's guaranteed you'll land it.

 

[Penol]

Definitely gonna try this out

 

[abit_rusty]

I did notice the range on the up+b is pretty deceptive. Definitely a good mixup but also can be easy to react to. Still, it's a nice addition to our repertoire. Thanks for the tip!

 

[Xnpio]

I'm actually a gigantic fan of the Up-B OoS. I use it in Melee from time to time also, (LOL). Used it in Brawl, and am really happy that it is a pretty solid option for some cases. I've found it to be an extra mindgame and scare in matches that are last stock high percent, (assuming really high percents, like 150), because it can kill depending on positioning! If your opponent is aware, not only do they have to watch out for regular grabs, and whatever strong hitboxes you throw out, but anything you shield is even more dangerous now.