Guide Character specific strategies for Roy

[Comet7]

it's the weight dependent hitbox that allows puff to be OHKO'd since she is extremely light, so yes, it does matter.

up tilt > rest is better than all of roy's setups into blazer since the up tilt is much safer than jumping and works more universally than down tilt > blazer.

keep in mind that puff is usually in a position to not get hit by anything threatening since it's easier for her to hit you with a bair than it is for you to hit her with pretty much anything. when she's not in the air, she can also crouch, which avoids nearly everything roy has.

edit: flaming isn't very nice, but i won't report you for that

 

[_____Andrew_____]

it's the weight dependent hitbox that allows puff to be OHKO'd since she is extremely light, so yes, it does matter.

up tilt > rest is better than all of roy's setups into blazer since the up tilt is much safer than jumping and works more universally than down tilt > blazer.

keep in mind that puff is usually in a position to not get hit by anything threatening since it's easier for her to hit you with a bair than it is for you to hit her with pretty much anything. when she's not in the air, she can also crouch, which avoids nearly everything roy has.

Yes, I know it allows puff to get OHKO'd. How do you not understand what I'm saying? I said if we are already talking about the specific matchup, it doesn't matter that it's weight dependent and doesn't KO other characters, it KO's jigglypuff and that's all that matters in this matchup. Did you go to preschool?

 

[T^2]

"Weight dependent" doesn't matter when we are already talking about the specific matchup where the other character is plenty light enough.

Right, the hitbox that one hit kos puff depending on location on the stage is the reverse weight-dependent hitbox of blazer. That's what I was referring to.

Edit: the weight-dependent part is what refers to a certain part of the blazer hitbox, not the matchup in any way

 

[_____Andrew_____]

Right, the hitbox that one hit kos puff depending on location on the stage is the reverse weight-dependent hitbox of blazer. That's what I was referring to.

Edit: the weight-dependent part is what refers to a certain part of the blazer hitbox, not the matchup in any way

I'm getting confused about this conversation. What do you mean when you say that the hitbox is weight dependent?

 

[T^2]

I'm getting confused about this conversation. What do you mean when you say that the hitbox is weight dependent?

The knockback that the hitbox provides is dependent on the weight of the character hit

 

[_____Andrew_____]

Isn't that true of any hitbox in the game?

 

[T^2]

Isn't that true of any hitbox in the game?

Well those are a mix of percent and weight/fall speed, whereas this is 100 percent based on the weight of the character

 

[_____Andrew_____]

The knockback that the hitbox provides is dependent on the weight of the character hit

Well those are a mix of percent and weight/fall speed, whereas this is 100 percent based on the weight of the character

True, this doesn't depend on percent, but falling speed still matters in the same sense that it matters for any other attack.

 

[T^2]

True, this doesn't depend on percent, but falling speed still matters in the same sense that it matters for any other attack.

For the weight-dependent hitbox, I don't believe fallspeed has an effect in how far the move sends the character

 

[_____Andrew_____]

For the weight-dependent hitbox, I don't believe fallspeed has an effect in how far the move sends the character

Fall speed doesn't affect the speed at which an attack launches you, for any attack.. However, for attacks that send you upwards, higher fall speed will make you lose your vertical velocity faster, so you don't go as far.

 

[T^2]

Fall speed doesn't affect the speed at which an attack launches you, for any attack.. However, for attacks that send you upwards, higher fall speed will make you lose your vertical velocity faster, so you don't go as far.

Yea I know that, but this hitbox is so unique I don't know if that factors in or not. And I dont think there are two characters in the game that have the same weight but different fallspeeds to test it out with

 

[_____Andrew_____]

That doesn't make sense. It doesn't depend on the hitbox, your falling speed just is your falling speed. The only thing that's different about this hitbox is that it has 0 knockback scaling with percent. I can't think of any reason why falling speed wouldn't matter...

 

[Comet7]

andrew is right. also: http://supersmashbros.wikia.com/wiki/Weight

keep in mind that fall speed is technically different from acceleration, which is what you're talking about.

does anybody know how many SDI inputs are needed to go into the other hits of blazer?

 

[T^2]

That doesn't make sense. It doesn't depend on the hitbox, your falling speed just is your falling speed. The only thing that's different about this hitbox is that it has 0 knockback scaling with percent. I can't think of any reason why falling speed wouldn't matter...

I was just saying I wasn't sure if it affected this hitboxes knockback because it is so unique within the franchise

 

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