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XD.Cambriel, there is a very good reason as to why people constantly claim that Ike's metagame has stopped and he has no potential: Most people aren't very smart.
Ike may have been "Ganon+Ragnell" at the start of Brawl, but now I'd hardly call him straightforward.
Without chain grabs, the Ice Climbers would probably be low middle tier. Are you sure you're not talking about King Dedede?Without chaingrabs...ICs are still pretty good. o___O
But umm...anyway, a non-QAC Pikachu is disgusting. I've never seen one that didn't use QAC and was successful.
Oh yeah, Chain Jacket is ********, and Gimpy wins without Tilt Locks.
Gosh... Fatmanonice. Pay attention to me will ya?Without chain grabs, the Ice Climbers would probably be low middle tier. Are you sure you're not talking about King Dedede?
I wouldn't say the technique is THAT important to Pikachu's metagame. I find it hard to believe that using it would heavily weight whether or not a person can win with him or not.
Refering one player is never a good idea and, truth be told, there are a lot better Shieks.
No, I'm talking about Ice Climbers. Desynching is bananas. You can still win without grabbing.Without chain grabs, the Ice Climbers would probably be low middle tier. Are you sure you're not talking about King Dedede?
I wouldn't say the technique is THAT important to Pikachu's metagame. I find it hard to believe that using it would heavily weight whether or not a person can win with him or not.
Agreed on IC. Those who say IC are straight-forward needs their head checked.Anyone who says ICs are stright-forward... need to research. >.>
Pika is kinda meh, no many use QAC, and his moves are pretty straight. Heck, I can sorta use Pika quite good. <.<;
4realMaybe it's just me, but rob's aerials have a really odd timing (except the fair) making him not that straight forward.
You may also add wolf, imo he's the second "pick'n'bash" character after ike.
I laughed at this. His recovery is clearly not the best.
how is no one else saying DK. His game is all spacing, he doesn't even have any AT's to learn. some of the most complex stuff with him might cargo throws and what not. In a lower level of play DK could probably win with jab , f-tilt and f-smash aloneDK.
Except against Dedede. Other than that, he's pie.