Charizard Tactical Discussion

[Steeler]

miles is drunk as ****

lol <3

 

[Miles.]

everytime i get drunk i try to get people to freestyle rap battle me, why is mike haze the only one thats down.


flying high!


i got mad beats and i love fat *****.

(i play the drums, sometimes naked)

 

[Toby.]

Haha miles you're awesome.

Really really awesome.

 

[Miles.]

everytime i get drunk i try to get people to freestyle rap battle me, why is mike haze the only one thats down.


flying high!


i got mad beats and i love fat *****.

(i play the drums, sometimes naked)

the bleeped out work is the bad word for butts, but it is plural.


*****, pokemonmasterirl loves fast ***** IRL

 

[T-block]

i lol'd

requesting that you post something every time you're hammered kthx

 

[Bestiarius]

No matter how awesome your post is when you get drunk, Miles, it will never be as awesome as some post on the Bowser boards. This was, like, 2 years ago and this dude must have been wasted more than my money. He was going on about how Bowser was "a black guy with no face beards. Is this mere coin? No says the myself!" It was hilarious and these guys argued about it. One guy said that it made sense if you read it while drunk and another guy said it didn't. Did anybody else see that crazy thread? Miles' drunk freestyle it teh shiz.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

****, I want to play Charizard if this is what you people consider a tactical discussion.

(Not trying to knock you guys, freestyle rap battle too ****ing good.)

 

[Miles.]

charizard mains ****.

 

[PkTrainerCris]

chorozord mains ****
we haz da rawk smash :D

 

[Tesh]

Fsmash would be much more useful if it wasn't multihit. The first hit gets clanked or overpowered by everything which makes its massive range a bit less useful. Its a big pay off to punish landing lag, but even when people aren't using an attack, doesn't the first hit pop them away from the 2nd hit at times?

Is there any application for this similar to the "new" DASC combo. Can you push yourself off of platforms with Fsmash?

 

[IThinkAboutIvysaur]

Fsmash is pretty sucky but a few hours ago I hit someone with a pretty far charged Fsmash for a KO.

 

[MaTA]

thats cause Fsmash is awesome.

 

[Bestiarius]

Fsmash may suck, but it can hit people off of edges.

 

[Vermy]

Dtilt is amazing. Discuss.

 

[Bestiarius]

Dtilt is amazing. It's fast and next to lagless and makes a great KO move. It also has great range. It's a fast move with power from a heavyweight. What's not to like?

 

[IThinkAboutIvysaur]

Dtilt is good for killing.

 

[Miles.]

Dtilt is amazing. Discuss.

so when i was playing some friendlies and talking with Fiction at genesis he said "Charizard's dtilt is the best move in the game."

 

[typh]

fiction hates squirtle XD

 

[typh]

oh **** i totally just stole my boss' pen at work hopefully he doesnt notice

 

[Bestiarius]

Dern thawz pens!

 

[typh]

haha did i really post that i don't even remember

 

[Miles.]

are you drunk?

 

[Tesh]

Does Dtilt Sourspot-Up B work? At kill percents?

 

[typh]

no two moves in brawl "work" as a combo

 

[Tesh]

Plenty of moves do. At low percents mostly, but I was wondering if it works, since the super armor would power through any counterattack.

 

[T-block]

I would think that the d-tilt would still send them too far forward to connect to Fly. Even if it does connect, the final hit is really easy to DI, especially if you're using it more than once in a match.

 

[Vermy]

From the ledge of battle field, you can use fly and land perfectly on the side platform with no lag. (Y)

 

[Toby.]

No lag.

whut?!?!

 

[Miles.]

you can land anywhere with no lag.

T_T


Zzzzzz.

 

[Steeler]

vermy that technique doesn't work on HDTVs or wifi

 

[Magik0722]

do you mean ledge cancel?

 

[Vermy]

Not ledge cancel.
After grabbing a ledge, tap the control stick away from the ledge, hit up b. If you angle it right, you'll land on the platform before freefall. Thus, no lag. The SA frames make it safe too. If done correctly, you'll leave the edge with SA frames, then attack frames, and land, able to shield instantly.

 

[Miles.]

Not ledge cancel.
After grabbing a ledge, tap the control stick away from the ledge, hit up b. If you angle it right, you'll land on the platform before freefall. Thus, no lag. The SA frames make it safe too. If done correctly, you'll leave the edge with SA frames, then attack frames, and land, able to shield instantly.

Haha oh yeah goood stuff Vermysaur.

I thought you were talking about the glide attack haha.

This sounds cool, we need to be aware of our level specific tricks such as this.
Any little thing we can use to our advantage.

 

[Zigsta]

So Charizard's bair is pretty much my favorite move in the game. Forget Rock Smash. Hitting an opponent with an un-sweetspotted bair or two followed by a dair spike is really too flipping good. I half-jokingly tell my friends they got Zig Combo'd when I get them with that, haha.

 

[Vermy]

sourspot bair for God tier.
i'm more so in love with Zard's utilt. Poking at people on platforms above me in particular. TRIANGLE OF DOOOOOOOOM!

 

[Zigsta]

Uair + uair +uair +utilt at low percents is raaaaape.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Not ledge cancel.
After grabbing a ledge, tap the control stick away from the ledge, hit up b. If you angle it right, you'll land on the platform before freefall. Thus, no lag. The SA frames make it safe too. If done correctly, you'll leave the edge with SA frames, then attack frames, and land, able to shield instantly.

This sounds amazing. I've never experimented with Charizard's Up-B like this, although Ivysaur's works in the same way.

I'll give it some testing.

 

[Vermy]

This sounds amazing. I've never experimented with Charizard's Up-B like this, although Ivysaur's works in the same way.

I'll give it some testing.

Ivysaur's is easier to time with no lag.
I've been testing Charizard's now for an hour or so, testing how long it takes till Zard can put up his shield after landing. To get him to land before freefall is hard, but once you get used to it, it becomes second nature. When i said shield instantly, i may have spoken too soon. But i digress, more testing is in order. And not just on BF.

 

[Miles.]

this is good vermysaur, anything to keep the ball rolling.

 

[Miles.]

charizard mains ****.

I meant real charizard mains rap.

**** and rap.