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Top player bias? How do you get that analysis out of what I said?
I don't give a **** where I place. I suck, and most of my enjoyment of this game is vicarious. The only thing that I actually care about is that my placing has meaning. Scenarios like the one you describe are made more probable when people don't take pools seriously, and that devalues the numerical ranking system. It may or may not have in this particular case, but that's irrelevant. It's wrong because it increases the potential of skewed placements.
Dapuffster would have taken 2nd seed in Ally's pool, but because Ally sandbagged against Pelca he got 3rd seed.
And people only get away with this because of the "more than one try" system (Top 3-4 advances in Pools & Double Elimination Bracket).
ichu:
I originally missed this part, so I apologize for my late response.
I'm doing no such thing. I would have loved to see him beat Ally in a legitimate upset, but Ally robbed him of that opportunity.You're acting as if Pelca had no chance on beating Ally, even without the sandbagging.
Let's just pretend that Ally SD'ed 6 times as Snake
i'm watching both of those. there is NOTHING! :O
Ya that's fine, I don't normally force my views onto someone it's not my intention, but I would still like to see more spirit in everyone, that's not going to change. But to me, I don't understand how when you enter a tournament, you wouldn't want to win it. Sure in the beginning you learn and stuff but there's limits to how much losing you can take. lol. The spot light is for the people that do really well. I don't see how anyone wouldn't want that. Everyone wants to have some kind of attention, we are humans after all.. feeling loved is very important.I originally missed this part, so I apologize for my late response.
From the bolded text, it appears you are of the Ricky Bobby mindset, where "If you're not first, you're last." Which is fine, but if that's the case, why seed at all? Surely the best player will emerge from a random bracket as easily as a seeded one. Maybe I'm putting words in your mouth here, but it really seems that's what you're getting at...
Also, it's not fair to tell everyone else what their goals should be. Most people enter tournaments for the experience and don't care much about making it all the way to Grand Finals. For them, the placings below the top do matter, because they will only ever know it vicariously. They might care very much whether they're 25th or 9th, because it reflects their progression as players.
Also, I never said anything about Marth or Link; please refer to my sig.
Also, I think I'm done arguing with you for now. It's been interesting, but I'm tired and I'll probably have to wake up in less than 8 hours. Just so you understand, I don't think less of you because of your views - I just find their implications for meaningful results frustrating. Good night.
