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Compendium for Uthrow kill %?

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This is a useful thing to know if you're becoming more serious about playing Lucas, yet after some light searching, I haven't found anything on the subject.

So far, I've toyed around with a few characters on FD, and I've found the following percentages (before the throw) guarantee a kill under the following conditions. The +- margins are because I didn't copy them down

No DI:
Jigglypuff: ~95% (+- 2)
Zelda: ~103% (+-3)
Bowser: ~110% (+-5)
Ganondorf: ~125% (+-5)

If these numbers are wrong, feel free to correct me. Any additions are greatly appreciated, and numbers with "perfect" DI are also greatly appreciated. I'll be experimenting with this more as I keep playing.
 

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Optimal DI is straight to either side. As it's really easy to always DI Lucas UpThrow correctly, those number also are much more important (albeit not that different). I don't have any numbers for the current version, but I posted a few for 2.5 or so here that may give an idea for now. The numbers have changed a bit since then, but not too much (e.g. Jiggs on FD is 90/95 now instead of 90/97 in no/optimal DI starting percentages).
 

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Double posting, because this mostly answers the thread. I wrote a script to generate all the Up-Throw kill percentages. While I didn't have the exact formulas, from random testing the approximated data seems to usually fall within the range of +/- 2. The highest error I found was 5 (TL on PS2 is 118%, not 123%), but like 95% of the data is untested (and non corrected). Fox should be 100% correct, because I used him to measure stage height.

All the data is for Lucas standing on the lowest level area of the main platform (i.e. the middle for YS and Lylat, usually just the lowest point), with ideal DI and before throwing, unstaled. For emphasis, this data is computer generated and thus not exact (observed error <= 5, usually within +/-2). To get the technical kill percentage (after the throw) add 12% to each of the values.

Character | Battlefield | Distant Planet | Dracula's Castle | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Hanenbow | Infinite Glacier | Lylat Cruise | Metal Cavern | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 1 | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Rumble Falls | Skyloft | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware Inc. | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
:bowser2: | 133% | 137% | 151% | 165% | 133% | 141% | 143% | 132% | 132% | 137% | 142% | 132% | 130% | 130% | 142% | 137% | 145% | 137% | 126% | 139% | 121% | :bowser2:
:falcon: | 168% | 172% | 187% | 201% | 168% | 176% | 178% | 166% | 166% | 172% | 177% | 166% | 164% | 164% | 177% | 172% | 181% | 172% | 160% | 174% | 154% | :falcon:
:charizard: | 124% | 128% | 142% | 156% | 124% | 132% | 134% | 122% | 122% | 128% | 133% | 122% | 120% | 120% | 133% | 128% | 136% | 128% | 116% | 130% | 111% | :charizard:
:dedede: | 142% | 146% | 160% | 175% | 142% | 150% | 152% | 140% | 140% | 146% | 151% | 140% | 138% | 138% | 151% | 146% | 154% | 146% | 134% | 148% | 128% | :dedede:
:diddy: | 155% | 159% | 174% | 188% | 155% | 164% | 166% | 153% | 153% | 159% | 165% | 153% | 151% | 151% | 165% | 159% | 168% | 159% | 147% | 161% | 142% | :diddy:
:dk2: | 147% | 152% | 166% | 181% | 147% | 156% | 158% | 145% | 145% | 152% | 157% | 145% | 143% | 143% | 157% | 152% | 160% | 152% | 139% | 154% | 134% | :dk2:
:falco: | 180% | 184% | 198% | 213% | 180% | 188% | 190% | 177% | 177% | 184% | 189% | 177% | 175% | 175% | 189% | 184% | 192% | 184% | 171% | 186% | 166% | :falco:
:fox: | 172% | 176% | 190% | 204% | 172% | 180% | 182% | 170% | 170% | 176% | 181% | 170% | 168% | 168% | 181% | 176% | 184% | 176% | 164% | 178% | 159% | :fox:
:gw: | 124% | 128% | 142% | 156% | 124% | 132% | 134% | 122% | 122% | 128% | 133% | 122% | 120% | 120% | 133% | 128% | 136% | 128% | 116% | 130% | 111% | :gw:
:ganondorf: | 137% | 141% | 155% | 169% | 137% | 145% | 147% | 135% | 135% | 141% | 146% | 135% | 133% | 133% | 146% | 141% | 149% | 141% | 129% | 143% | 124% | :ganondorf:
Character | Battlefield | Distant Planet | Dracula's Castle | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Hanenbow | Infinite Glacier | Lylat Cruise | Metal Cavern | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 1 | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Rumble Falls | Skyloft | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware Inc. | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
:popo: | 121% | 124% | 138% | 152% | 121% | 128% | 130% | 119% | 119% | 124% | 129% | 119% | 117% | 117% | 129% | 124% | 132% | 124% | 113% | 126% | 108% | :popo:
:ike: | 137% | 141% | 155% | 169% | 137% | 145% | 147% | 135% | 135% | 141% | 146% | 135% | 132% | 132% | 146% | 141% | 149% | 141% | 128% | 143% | 123% | :ike:
:ivysaur: | 121% | 125% | 139% | 154% | 121% | 129% | 131% | 119% | 119% | 125% | 130% | 119% | 117% | 117% | 130% | 125% | 133% | 125% | 113% | 127% | 108% | :ivysaur:
:jigglypuff: | 107% | 111% | 125% | 138% | 107% | 115% | 117% | 105% | 105% | 111% | 116% | 105% | 103% | 103% | 116% | 111% | 119% | 111% | 99% | 113% | 94% | :jigglypuff:
:kirby2: | 119% | 123% | 137% | 151% | 119% | 127% | 129% | 117% | 117% | 123% | 128% | 117% | 115% | 115% | 128% | 123% | 131% | 123% | 111% | 125% | 106% | :kirby2:
:link2: | 140% | 144% | 158% | 172% | 140% | 148% | 150% | 138% | 138% | 144% | 149% | 138% | 136% | 136% | 149% | 144% | 152% | 144% | 132% | 146% | 127% | :link2:
:lucario: | 137% | 141% | 155% | 169% | 137% | 145% | 147% | 135% | 135% | 141% | 146% | 135% | 133% | 133% | 146% | 141% | 149% | 141% | 129% | 143% | 124% | :lucario:
:lucas: | 147% | 151% | 166% | 180% | 147% | 156% | 158% | 145% | 145% | 151% | 157% | 145% | 143% | 143% | 157% | 151% | 160% | 151% | 139% | 154% | 134% | :lucas:
:luigi2: | 117% | 121% | 135% | 149% | 117% | 125% | 127% | 115% | 115% | 121% | 126% | 115% | 113% | 113% | 126% | 121% | 129% | 121% | 109% | 123% | 104% | :luigi2:
:metaknight: | 151% | 155% | 169% | 184% | 151% | 159% | 161% | 149% | 149% | 155% | 160% | 149% | 146% | 146% | 160% | 155% | 163% | 155% | 142% | 157% | 137% | :metaknight:
Character | Battlefield | Distant Planet | Dracula's Castle | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Hanenbow | Infinite Glacier | Lylat Cruise | Metal Cavern | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 1 | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Rumble Falls | Skyloft | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware Inc. | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
:mario2: | 124% | 128% | 142% | 156% | 124% | 132% | 134% | 122% | 122% | 128% | 133% | 122% | 120% | 120% | 133% | 128% | 136% | 128% | 116% | 130% | 111% | :mario2:
:marth: | 139% | 143% | 157% | 172% | 139% | 147% | 149% | 137% | 137% | 143% | 148% | 137% | 134% | 134% | 148% | 143% | 151% | 143% | 130% | 145% | 125% | :marth:
:mewtwopm: | 115% | 119% | 133% | 147% | 115% | 123% | 125% | 113% | 113% | 119% | 124% | 113% | 111% | 111% | 124% | 119% | 127% | 119% | 108% | 121% | 103% | :mewtwopm:
:ness2: | 128% | 132% | 146% | 160% | 128% | 136% | 138% | 126% | 126% | 132% | 137% | 126% | 124% | 124% | 137% | 132% | 140% | 132% | 120% | 134% | 115% | :ness2:
:olimar: | 130% | 134% | 148% | 162% | 130% | 138% | 140% | 128% | 128% | 134% | 139% | 128% | 126% | 126% | 139% | 134% | 142% | 134% | 122% | 136% | 117% | :olimar:
:peach: | 115% | 119% | 133% | 147% | 115% | 123% | 125% | 113% | 113% | 119% | 124% | 113% | 111% | 111% | 124% | 119% | 127% | 119% | 107% | 121% | 102% | :peach:
:pikachu2: | 132% | 136% | 150% | 164% | 132% | 140% | 142% | 130% | 130% | 136% | 141% | 130% | 128% | 128% | 141% | 136% | 144% | 136% | 124% | 138% | 119% | :pikachu2:
:pit: | 131% | 135% | 149% | 163% | 131% | 139% | 141% | 129% | 129% | 135% | 140% | 129% | 127% | 127% | 140% | 135% | 143% | 135% | 122% | 137% | 117% | :pit:
:rob: | 121% | 125% | 139% | 153% | 121% | 129% | 131% | 119% | 119% | 125% | 130% | 119% | 117% | 117% | 130% | 125% | 133% | 125% | 113% | 127% | 109% | :rob:
:roypm: | 150% | 154% | 168% | 182% | 150% | 158% | 160% | 148% | 148% | 154% | 159% | 148% | 145% | 145% | 159% | 154% | 162% | 154% | 141% | 156% | 136% | :roypm:
Character | Battlefield | Distant Planet | Dracula's Castle | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Hanenbow | Infinite Glacier | Lylat Cruise | Metal Cavern | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 1 | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Rumble Falls | Skyloft | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware Inc. | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
:samus2: | 110% | 114% | 128% | 142% | 110% | 118% | 120% | 108% | 108% | 114% | 119% | 108% | 106% | 106% | 119% | 114% | 122% | 114% | 102% | 116% | 97% | :samus2:
:sheik: | 141% | 145% | 159% | 173% | 141% | 149% | 151% | 139% | 139% | 145% | 150% | 139% | 137% | 137% | 150% | 145% | 153% | 145% | 133% | 147% | 128% | :sheik:
:snake: | 138% | 142% | 157% | 171% | 138% | 146% | 148% | 136% | 136% | 142% | 147% | 136% | 134% | 134% | 147% | 142% | 150% | 142% | 130% | 144% | 125% | :snake:
:sonic: | 132% | 136% | 150% | 164% | 132% | 140% | 142% | 130% | 130% | 136% | 141% | 130% | 128% | 128% | 141% | 136% | 144% | 136% | 124% | 138% | 119% | :sonic:
:squirtle: | 126% | 130% | 144% | 157% | 126% | 134% | 136% | 124% | 124% | 130% | 135% | 124% | 122% | 122% | 135% | 130% | 138% | 130% | 118% | 132% | 113% | :squirtle:
:toonlink: | 140% | 144% | 158% | 172% | 140% | 148% | 150% | 138% | 138% | 144% | 149% | 138% | 136% | 136% | 149% | 144% | 152% | 144% | 132% | 146% | 127% | :toonlink:
:warioc: | 130% | 134% | 148% | 162% | 130% | 138% | 140% | 128% | 128% | 134% | 139% | 128% | 126% | 126% | 139% | 134% | 142% | 134% | 122% | 136% | 117% | :warioc:
:wolf: | 182% | 186% | 201% | 215% | 182% | 190% | 192% | 180% | 180% | 186% | 191% | 180% | 178% | 178% | 191% | 186% | 194% | 186% | 173% | 188% | 168% | :wolf:
:yoshi2: | 131% | 135% | 150% | 164% | 131% | 139% | 141% | 129% | 129% | 135% | 140% | 129% | 127% | 127% | 140% | 135% | 143% | 135% | 123% | 137% | 118% | :yoshi2:
:zerosuitsamus: | 139% | 143% | 157% | 171% | 139% | 147% | 149% | 137% | 137% | 143% | 148% | 137% | 135% | 135% | 148% | 143% | 151% | 143% | 131% | 145% | 126% | :zerosuitsamus:
:zelda: | 111% | 115% | 129% | 143% | 111% | 119% | 121% | 109% | 109% | 115% | 120% | 109% | 107% | 107% | 120% | 115% | 123% | 115% | 103% | 117% | 98% | :zelda:
Character | Battlefield | Distant Planet | Dracula's Castle | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Hanenbow | Infinite Glacier | Lylat Cruise | Metal Cavern | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 1 | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Rumble Falls | Skyloft | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware Inc. | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character

Edit: PSA can read ZSS' file, should have bothered trying.
Edit 2: Updated for 3.5.
 
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@ Badge Badge That is seriously awesome, even if it has a little uncontrollable error. One question: are the percents calculated from the beginning or end of the throw (i.e., is this what % you throw them at, or what they're at while they're flying)?
 

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@ Badge Badge That is seriously awesome, even if it has a little uncontrollable error. One question: are the percents calculated from the beginning or end of the throw (i.e., is this what % you throw them at, or what they're at while they're flying)?
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that. All percentages are before throwing for an unstaled throw. The technical kill percentages (after the throw) are +12% each.
 

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Sweet table! If that table can be tested and finalized with exact or +/- 1 values (which I can do with my spare time to some extent), it might become sticky-worthy, or at least be placed into an already stickied Lucas thread. Stuff like this helps figure the game out and develop the meta a bit as well; thanks for the hard work! :)
 
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idk if its just me but i cant see the character icons on the side. it looks like theyre all squished and i cant see who is who. anyone else having that issue?
 

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idk if its just me but i cant see the character icons on the side. it looks like theyre all squished and i cant see who is who. anyone else having that issue?
Seems like some browsers don't recognize the true width of the symbols when calculating the column width. Should be less elegant, but recognizable now.
 

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So I found out how falling during knockback really works and updated my script and the above post with that knowledge. Here's some random testing results to show the difference between the old and new data:
Wario/YI: Old: 122, New: 120, correct: 119
Snake/PS1: Old:121, New: 117, correct: 116
Squirtle/DC: Old:126, New: 126, correct: 128
ICs/Skyworld: Old: 117, New: 117, correct: 119
M2, Lylat: Old: 106, New: 104, correct: 106
MK: Halberd, Platform: Old: 129, New: 126, Correct: 124
MK: Halberd, Ship: Old: 114, New: 109, Correct: 107
Jigglypuff, Skyloft: Old: 97, New: 96, Correct: 99
Link, YS: Old: 116, New: 113, Correct: 112
Wolf, Norfair: Old: 167, New: 169, Correct: 168
GW, WW: Old: 104, New: 101, Correct: 99
Dedede, PS2: Old: 125, New: 121, Correct: 120
DL, Lucas: Old: 160, New: 160, Correct: 159

The method I used for measuring stage height still is a bit shaky, but it should be good enough for now.

Character | Battlefield | Castle Siege (cave) | Castle Siege (outside) | Distant Planet | Dracula's Castle | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Halberd (Platform) | Halberd (Ship) | Lylat Cruise | Metal Cavern | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 1 | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Rumble Falls | Skyloft | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
:bowser2: | 125% | 123% | 116% | 123% | 134% | 145% | 120% | 126% | 127% | 114% | 100% | 123% | 126% | 126% | 116% | 117% | 125% | 123% | 130% | 116% | 113% | 124% | 110% | :bowser2:
:falcon: | 155% | 152% | 144% | 152% | 165% | 179% | 149% | 156% | 157% | 142% | 126% | 152% | 156% | 156% | 144% | 145% | 155% | 152% | 160% | 144% | 141% | 154% | 138% | :falcon:
:charizard: | 116% | 114% | 107% | 114% | 125% | 136% | 111% | 117% | 118% | 105% | 92% | 114% | 117% | 117% | 107% | 108% | 116% | 114% | 120% | 107% | 104% | 115% | 102% | :charizard:
:dedede: | 134% | 132% | 124% | 132% | 144% | 156% | 129% | 135% | 136% | 122% | 108% | 132% | 135% | 135% | 124% | 125% | 134% | 132% | 139% | 124% | 121% | 133% | 119% | :dedede:
:diddy: | 145% | 142% | 134% | 142% | 155% | 167% | 139% | 146% | 147% | 133% | 117% | 142% | 146% | 146% | 134% | 135% | 145% | 142% | 150% | 134% | 132% | 144% | 129% | :diddy:
:dk2: | 139% | 136% | 129% | 136% | 149% | 161% | 133% | 140% | 141% | 127% | 112% | 136% | 140% | 140% | 129% | 130% | 139% | 136% | 144% | 129% | 126% | 138% | 123% | :dk2:
:falco: | 164% | 161% | 153% | 161% | 174% | 188% | 158% | 165% | 166% | 150% | 134% | 161% | 165% | 165% | 153% | 154% | 164% | 161% | 169% | 153% | 149% | 163% | 146% | :falco:
:fox: | 159% | 156% | 148% | 156% | 169% | 182% | 153% | 160% | 161% | 146% | 130% | 156% | 160% | 160% | 148% | 149% | 159% | 156% | 164% | 148% | 145% | 158% | 142% | :fox:
:gw: | 116% | 114% | 107% | 114% | 125% | 136% | 111% | 117% | 118% | 105% | 92% | 114% | 117% | 117% | 107% | 108% | 116% | 114% | 120% | 107% | 104% | 115% | 102% | :gw:
:ganondorf: | 129% | 126% | 119% | 126% | 138% | 149% | 123% | 130% | 131% | 117% | 103% | 126% | 130% | 130% | 119% | 120% | 129% | 126% | 133% | 119% | 116% | 128% | 114% | :ganondorf:
Character | Battlefield | Castle Siege (cave) | Castle Siege (outside) | Distant Planet | Dracula's Castle | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Halberd (Platform) | Halberd (Ship) | Lylat Cruise | Metal Cavern | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 1 | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Rumble Falls | Skyloft | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
:popo: | 113% | 110% | 104% | 110% | 121% | 132% | 108% | 114% | 114% | 102% | 89% | 110% | 114% | 114% | 104% | 105% | 113% | 110% | 117% | 104% | 101% | 112% | 99% | :popo:
:ike: | 129% | 126% | 119% | 126% | 138% | 149% | 123% | 130% | 131% | 117% | 103% | 126% | 130% | 130% | 119% | 120% | 129% | 126% | 133% | 119% | 116% | 128% | 114% | :ike:
:ivysaur: | 115% | 112% | 106% | 112% | 123% | 134% | 110% | 116% | 117% | 104% | 90% | 112% | 116% | 116% | 106% | 107% | 115% | 112% | 119% | 106% | 103% | 114% | 101% | :ivysaur:
:jigglypuff: | 99% | 97% | 91% | 97% | 107% | 117% | 94% | 100% | 101% | 89% | 77% | 97% | 100% | 100% | 91% | 91% | 99% | 97% | 103% | 91% | 88% | 98% | 86% | :jigglypuff:
:kirby2: | 112% | 109% | 103% | 109% | 120% | 131% | 107% | 112% | 113% | 101% | 88% | 109% | 112% | 112% | 103% | 103% | 112% | 109% | 116% | 103% | 100% | 111% | 98% | :kirby2:
:link2: | 132% | 129% | 122% | 129% | 141% | 153% | 126% | 133% | 134% | 120% | 105% | 129% | 133% | 133% | 122% | 123% | 132% | 129% | 136% | 122% | 119% | 131% | 116% | :link2:
:lucario: | 128% | 126% | 119% | 126% | 137% | 149% | 123% | 129% | 130% | 117% | 103% | 126% | 129% | 129% | 119% | 120% | 128% | 126% | 133% | 119% | 116% | 128% | 113% | :lucario:
:lucas: | 138% | 135% | 128% | 135% | 147% | 160% | 133% | 139% | 140% | 126% | 111% | 135% | 139% | 139% | 128% | 129% | 138% | 135% | 143% | 128% | 125% | 137% | 122% | :lucas:
:luigi2: | 111% | 108% | 102% | 108% | 119% | 130% | 106% | 112% | 113% | 100% | 87% | 108% | 112% | 112% | 102% | 103% | 111% | 108% | 115% | 102% | 99% | 110% | 97% | :luigi2:
:metaknight: | 141% | 139% | 131% | 139% | 151% | 163% | 136% | 142% | 143% | 129% | 114% | 139% | 142% | 142% | 131% | 132% | 141% | 139% | 146% | 131% | 128% | 140% | 125% | :metaknight:
Character | Battlefield | Castle Siege (cave) | Castle Siege (outside) | Distant Planet | Dracula's Castle | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Halberd (Platform) | Halberd (Ship) | Lylat Cruise | Metal Cavern | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 1 | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Rumble Falls | Skyloft | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
:mario2: | 116% | 114% | 107% | 114% | 125% | 136% | 111% | 117% | 118% | 105% | 92% | 114% | 117% | 117% | 107% | 108% | 116% | 114% | 120% | 107% | 104% | 115% | 102% | :mario2:
:marth: | 132% | 129% | 122% | 129% | 141% | 153% | 126% | 133% | 134% | 120% | 105% | 129% | 133% | 133% | 122% | 123% | 132% | 129% | 137% | 122% | 119% | 131% | 116% | :marth:
:mewtwopm: | 108% | 106% | 99% | 106% | 116% | 127% | 103% | 109% | 110% | 97% | 84% | 106% | 109% | 109% | 99% | 100% | 108% | 106% | 112% | 99% | 97% | 107% | 94% | :mewtwopm:
:ness2: | 121% | 118% | 111% | 118% | 129% | 140% | 115% | 121% | 122% | 109% | 95% | 118% | 121% | 121% | 111% | 112% | 121% | 118% | 125% | 111% | 108% | 120% | 106% | :ness2:
:olimar: | 123% | 120% | 113% | 120% | 132% | 143% | 118% | 124% | 125% | 112% | 98% | 120% | 124% | 124% | 113% | 114% | 123% | 120% | 127% | 113% | 111% | 122% | 108% | :olimar:
:peach: | 108% | 105% | 99% | 105% | 116% | 127% | 103% | 109% | 110% | 97% | 84% | 105% | 109% | 109% | 99% | 100% | 108% | 105% | 112% | 99% | 97% | 107% | 94% | :peach:
:pikachu2: | 124% | 122% | 115% | 122% | 133% | 144% | 119% | 125% | 126% | 113% | 99% | 122% | 125% | 125% | 115% | 115% | 124% | 122% | 129% | 115% | 112% | 123% | 109% | :pikachu2:
:pit: | 123% | 121% | 114% | 121% | 132% | 143% | 118% | 124% | 125% | 112% | 98% | 121% | 124% | 124% | 114% | 114% | 123% | 121% | 128% | 114% | 111% | 122% | 108% | :pit:
:rob: | 114% | 112% | 105% | 112% | 122% | 133% | 109% | 115% | 116% | 103% | 90% | 112% | 115% | 115% | 105% | 106% | 114% | 112% | 118% | 105% | 102% | 113% | 100% | :rob:
:roypm: | 140% | 138% | 130% | 138% | 150% | 162% | 135% | 141% | 142% | 128% | 113% | 138% | 141% | 141% | 130% | 131% | 140% | 138% | 145% | 130% | 127% | 139% | 124% | :roypm:
Character | Battlefield | Castle Siege (cave) | Castle Siege (outside) | Distant Planet | Dracula's Castle | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Halberd (Platform) | Halberd (Ship) | Lylat Cruise | Metal Cavern | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 1 | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Rumble Falls | Skyloft | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
:samus2: | 103% | 101% | 94% | 101% | 111% | 122% | 98% | 104% | 105% | 93% | 80% | 101% | 104% | 104% | 94% | 95% | 103% | 101% | 107% | 94% | 92% | 102% | 90% | :samus2:
:sheik: | 132% | 130% | 122% | 130% | 142% | 153% | 127% | 133% | 134% | 121% | 106% | 130% | 133% | 133% | 122% | 123% | 132% | 130% | 137% | 122% | 120% | 132% | 117% | :sheik:
:snake: | 131% | 128% | 121% | 128% | 140% | 151% | 125% | 131% | 132% | 119% | 104% | 128% | 131% | 131% | 121% | 122% | 131% | 128% | 135% | 121% | 118% | 130% | 115% | :snake:
:sonic: | 124% | 122% | 115% | 122% | 133% | 144% | 119% | 125% | 126% | 113% | 99% | 122% | 125% | 125% | 115% | 115% | 124% | 122% | 129% | 115% | 112% | 123% | 109% | :sonic:
:squirtle: | 118% | 115% | 109% | 115% | 126% | 137% | 113% | 119% | 120% | 107% | 93% | 115% | 119% | 119% | 109% | 109% | 118% | 115% | 122% | 109% | 106% | 117% | 104% | :squirtle:
:toonlink: | 132% | 129% | 122% | 129% | 141% | 153% | 126% | 133% | 134% | 120% | 105% | 129% | 133% | 133% | 122% | 123% | 132% | 129% | 136% | 122% | 119% | 131% | 116% | :toonlink:
:warioc: | 123% | 120% | 113% | 120% | 131% | 143% | 117% | 123% | 124% | 111% | 97% | 120% | 123% | 123% | 113% | 114% | 123% | 120% | 127% | 113% | 110% | 122% | 108% | :warioc:
:wolf: | 166% | 162% | 154% | 162% | 176% | 190% | 159% | 167% | 168% | 152% | 135% | 162% | 167% | 167% | 154% | 155% | 166% | 162% | 171% | 154% | 151% | 165% | 148% | :wolf:
:yoshi2: | 124% | 121% | 114% | 121% | 133% | 144% | 118% | 125% | 126% | 112% | 98% | 121% | 125% | 125% | 114% | 115% | 124% | 121% | 128% | 114% | 111% | 123% | 109% | :yoshi2:
:zerosuitsamus: | 131% | 128% | 121% | 128% | 140% | 151% | 125% | 132% | 133% | 119% | 105% | 128% | 132% | 132% | 121% | 122% | 131% | 128% | 135% | 121% | 118% | 130% | 116% | :zerosuitsamus:
:zelda: | 104% | 101% | 95% | 101% | 112% | 122% | 99% | 104% | 105% | 93% | 81% | 101% | 104% | 104% | 95% | 96% | 104% | 101% | 108% | 95% | 93% | 103% | 90% | :zelda:
Character | Battlefield | Castle Siege (cave) | Castle Siege (outside) | Distant Planet | Dracula's Castle | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Halberd (Platform) | Halberd (Ship) | Lylat Cruise | Metal Cavern | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 1 | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Rumble Falls | Skyloft | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
 

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I updated the post above for 3.5. I only checked the update notes for changes in gravity/terminal velocity values, so if I overlooked something there (or it wasn't in the changelogs) the whole character would be wrong. Again, only Fox's values should be 100% correct (if not, the whole stage is wrong), the rest are automatic estimates.

Character | Battlefield | Castle Siege (cave) | Castle Siege (outside) | Distant Planet | Dracula's Castle | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Halberd (Platform) | Halberd (Ship) | Lylat Cruise | Metal Cavern | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 1 | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Rumble Falls | Skyloft | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
:bowser2: | 124% | 121% | 113% | 121% | 134% | 147% | 118% | 125% | 126% | 111% | 95% | 121% | 125% | 125% | 113% | 114% | 124% | 121% | 129% | 121% | 110% | 123% | 107% | :bowser2:
:falcon: | 156% | 152% | 144% | 152% | 166% | 180% | 149% | 157% | 158% | 142% | 125% | 152% | 157% | 157% | 144% | 145% | 156% | 152% | 161% | 152% | 141% | 155% | 138% | :falcon:
:charizard: | 115% | 112% | 104% | 112% | 125% | 138% | 109% | 116% | 117% | 102% | 86% | 112% | 116% | 116% | 104% | 105% | 115% | 112% | 120% | 112% | 101% | 114% | 98% | :charizard:
:dedede: | 132% | 129% | 120% | 129% | 142% | 155% | 125% | 133% | 134% | 118% | 102% | 129% | 133% | 133% | 120% | 121% | 132% | 129% | 137% | 129% | 117% | 131% | 114% | :dedede:
:diddy: | 144% | 141% | 132% | 141% | 154% | 168% | 138% | 145% | 146% | 130% | 114% | 141% | 145% | 145% | 132% | 134% | 144% | 141% | 149% | 141% | 129% | 143% | 126% | :diddy:
:dk2: | 137% | 134% | 125% | 134% | 147% | 160% | 130% | 138% | 139% | 123% | 106% | 134% | 138% | 138% | 125% | 126% | 137% | 134% | 142% | 134% | 122% | 136% | 119% | :dk2:
:falco: | 166% | 163% | 155% | 163% | 176% | 190% | 160% | 167% | 168% | 153% | 136% | 163% | 167% | 167% | 155% | 156% | 166% | 163% | 171% | 163% | 152% | 165% | 148% | :falco:
:fox: | 159% | 156% | 148% | 156% | 169% | 182% | 153% | 160% | 161% | 146% | 130% | 156% | 160% | 160% | 148% | 149% | 159% | 156% | 164% | 156% | 145% | 158% | 142% | :fox:
:gw: | 115% | 112% | 104% | 112% | 125% | 138% | 109% | 116% | 117% | 102% | 86% | 112% | 116% | 116% | 104% | 105% | 115% | 112% | 120% | 112% | 101% | 114% | 98% | :gw:
:ganondorf: | 127% | 124% | 116% | 124% | 137% | 150% | 121% | 128% | 129% | 114% | 98% | 124% | 128% | 128% | 116% | 117% | 127% | 124% | 132% | 124% | 113% | 126% | 110% | :ganondorf:
Character | Battlefield | Castle Siege (cave) | Castle Siege (outside) | Distant Planet | Dracula's Castle | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Halberd (Platform) | Halberd (Ship) | Lylat Cruise | Metal Cavern | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 1 | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Rumble Falls | Skyloft | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
:popo: | 112% | 109% | 101% | 109% | 122% | 135% | 106% | 113% | 114% | 99% | 83% | 109% | 113% | 113% | 101% | 102% | 112% | 109% | 117% | 109% | 98% | 111% | 95% | :popo:
:ike: | 127% | 124% | 115% | 124% | 137% | 150% | 121% | 128% | 129% | 113% | 97% | 124% | 128% | 128% | 115% | 116% | 127% | 124% | 132% | 124% | 112% | 126% | 109% | :ike:
:ivysaur: | 113% | 110% | 102% | 110% | 123% | 136% | 107% | 114% | 115% | 100% | 83% | 110% | 114% | 114% | 102% | 103% | 113% | 110% | 118% | 110% | 99% | 112% | 95% | :ivysaur:
:jigglypuff: | 99% | 96% | 88% | 96% | 109% | 122% | 93% | 100% | 101% | 86% | 70% | 96% | 100% | 100% | 88% | 89% | 99% | 96% | 104% | 96% | 85% | 98% | 82% | :jigglypuff:
:kirby2: | 110% | 107% | 99% | 107% | 120% | 133% | 104% | 111% | 112% | 97% | 81% | 107% | 111% | 111% | 99% | 100% | 110% | 107% | 115% | 107% | 96% | 109% | 93% | :kirby2:
:link2: | 130% | 127% | 119% | 127% | 140% | 153% | 124% | 131% | 132% | 117% | 100% | 127% | 131% | 131% | 119% | 120% | 130% | 127% | 135% | 127% | 116% | 129% | 113% | :link2:
:lucario: | 127% | 124% | 116% | 124% | 137% | 150% | 121% | 128% | 129% | 114% | 98% | 124% | 128% | 128% | 116% | 117% | 127% | 124% | 132% | 124% | 113% | 126% | 110% | :lucario:
:lucas: | 137% | 134% | 125% | 134% | 147% | 160% | 131% | 138% | 139% | 123% | 107% | 134% | 138% | 138% | 125% | 126% | 137% | 134% | 142% | 134% | 122% | 136% | 119% | :lucas:
:luigi2: | 109% | 106% | 98% | 106% | 119% | 132% | 103% | 110% | 111% | 96% | 80% | 106% | 110% | 110% | 98% | 99% | 109% | 106% | 114% | 106% | 95% | 108% | 92% | :luigi2:
:metaknight: | 140% | 137% | 128% | 137% | 150% | 163% | 133% | 141% | 142% | 126% | 109% | 137% | 141% | 141% | 128% | 129% | 140% | 137% | 145% | 137% | 125% | 139% | 122% | :metaknight:
Character | Battlefield | Castle Siege (cave) | Castle Siege (outside) | Distant Planet | Dracula's Castle | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Halberd (Platform) | Halberd (Ship) | Lylat Cruise | Metal Cavern | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 1 | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Rumble Falls | Skyloft | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
:mario2: | 115% | 112% | 104% | 112% | 125% | 138% | 109% | 116% | 117% | 102% | 86% | 112% | 116% | 116% | 104% | 105% | 115% | 112% | 120% | 112% | 101% | 114% | 98% | :mario2:
:marth: | 129% | 125% | 117% | 125% | 139% | 152% | 122% | 130% | 131% | 115% | 98% | 125% | 130% | 130% | 117% | 118% | 129% | 125% | 134% | 125% | 114% | 128% | 111% | :marth:
:mewtwopm: | 107% | 104% | 96% | 104% | 117% | 130% | 101% | 108% | 109% | 94% | 78% | 104% | 108% | 108% | 96% | 97% | 107% | 104% | 112% | 104% | 93% | 106% | 90% | :mewtwopm:
:ness2: | 118% | 115% | 107% | 115% | 128% | 142% | 112% | 119% | 120% | 105% | 89% | 115% | 119% | 119% | 107% | 108% | 118% | 115% | 123% | 115% | 104% | 117% | 101% | :ness2:
:olimar: | 121% | 118% | 109% | 118% | 131% | 144% | 114% | 122% | 123% | 107% | 91% | 118% | 122% | 122% | 109% | 110% | 121% | 118% | 126% | 118% | 106% | 120% | 103% | :olimar:
:peach: | 107% | 104% | 96% | 104% | 117% | 130% | 101% | 108% | 109% | 94% | 78% | 104% | 108% | 108% | 96% | 97% | 107% | 104% | 112% | 104% | 93% | 106% | 90% | :peach:
:pikachu2: | 122% | 119% | 111% | 119% | 132% | 145% | 116% | 123% | 124% | 109% | 93% | 119% | 123% | 123% | 111% | 112% | 122% | 119% | 127% | 119% | 108% | 121% | 105% | :pikachu2:
:pit: | 121% | 118% | 110% | 118% | 131% | 144% | 115% | 122% | 123% | 108% | 92% | 118% | 122% | 122% | 110% | 111% | 121% | 118% | 126% | 118% | 107% | 120% | 104% | :pit:
:rob: | 113% | 110% | 102% | 110% | 123% | 136% | 107% | 114% | 115% | 100% | 84% | 110% | 114% | 114% | 102% | 103% | 113% | 110% | 118% | 110% | 99% | 112% | 96% | :rob:
:roypm: | 139% | 136% | 127% | 136% | 149% | 162% | 132% | 140% | 141% | 125% | 109% | 136% | 140% | 140% | 127% | 128% | 139% | 136% | 144% | 136% | 124% | 138% | 121% | :roypm:
Character | Battlefield | Castle Siege (cave) | Castle Siege (outside) | Distant Planet | Dracula's Castle | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Halberd (Platform) | Halberd (Ship) | Lylat Cruise | Metal Cavern | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 1 | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Rumble Falls | Skyloft | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
:samus2: | 102% | 99% | 91% | 99% | 112% | 125% | 96% | 103% | 104% | 90% | 74% | 99% | 103% | 103% | 91% | 92% | 102% | 99% | 107% | 99% | 89% | 101% | 86% | :samus2:
:sheik: | 131% | 128% | 120% | 128% | 141% | 154% | 125% | 132% | 133% | 118% | 101% | 128% | 132% | 132% | 120% | 121% | 131% | 128% | 136% | 128% | 117% | 130% | 114% | :sheik:
:snake: | 128% | 125% | 117% | 125% | 138% | 152% | 122% | 129% | 130% | 115% | 98% | 125% | 129% | 129% | 117% | 118% | 128% | 125% | 133% | 125% | 114% | 127% | 111% | :snake:
:sonic: | 122% | 119% | 111% | 119% | 132% | 145% | 116% | 123% | 124% | 109% | 93% | 119% | 123% | 123% | 111% | 112% | 122% | 119% | 127% | 119% | 108% | 121% | 105% | :sonic:
:squirtle: | 117% | 114% | 106% | 114% | 126% | 139% | 111% | 118% | 119% | 104% | 88% | 114% | 118% | 118% | 106% | 107% | 117% | 114% | 122% | 114% | 103% | 116% | 100% | :squirtle:
:toonlink: | 130% | 127% | 119% | 127% | 140% | 153% | 124% | 131% | 132% | 117% | 100% | 127% | 131% | 131% | 119% | 120% | 130% | 127% | 135% | 127% | 116% | 129% | 113% | :toonlink:
:warioc: | 121% | 118% | 110% | 118% | 131% | 144% | 115% | 122% | 123% | 108% | 92% | 118% | 122% | 122% | 110% | 111% | 121% | 118% | 126% | 118% | 107% | 120% | 104% | :warioc:
:wolf: | 168% | 165% | 157% | 165% | 179% | 192% | 162% | 169% | 170% | 155% | 138% | 165% | 169% | 169% | 157% | 158% | 168% | 165% | 174% | 165% | 154% | 167% | 150% | :wolf:
:yoshi2: | 121% | 118% | 110% | 118% | 132% | 145% | 115% | 123% | 124% | 108% | 92% | 118% | 123% | 123% | 110% | 111% | 121% | 118% | 127% | 118% | 107% | 120% | 104% | :yoshi2:
:zerosuitsamus: | 129% | 126% | 118% | 126% | 139% | 152% | 123% | 130% | 131% | 116% | 100% | 126% | 130% | 130% | 118% | 119% | 129% | 126% | 134% | 126% | 115% | 128% | 112% | :zerosuitsamus:
:zelda: | 103% | 100% | 92% | 100% | 113% | 126% | 97% | 104% | 105% | 90% | 74% | 100% | 104% | 104% | 92% | 93% | 103% | 100% | 108% | 100% | 89% | 102% | 86% | :zelda:
Character | Battlefield | Castle Siege (cave) | Castle Siege (outside) | Distant Planet | Dracula's Castle | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Halberd (Platform) | Halberd (Ship) | Lylat Cruise | Metal Cavern | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 1 | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Rumble Falls | Skyloft | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
 
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