Dairers and Nairers - which type are you?

[SwastikaPyle]

It appears to me that there are two types of Lucas's - Nairers and Dairers.

Sean is pretty much a dairer in his vids. I see him do tons of full hop Dairs, followed by a dtilt into fsmash.

I am a bit different, I like doing shorthopped nairs into ftilts or utilts. It feels slightly less risky although the payoff may not be as good. Also, you rarely get shield grabbed since you can pick which side to land on out of a nair. Before they have a chance to turn around and grab, you can fltilt them to oblivion.

What type of Lucas are you?

 

[foxsmasher]

Your name is rather..controversial. Aside from that I'm pretty much both. I can use nairs to switch up if my opponent try's to predict my next moves. So I'm in the middle.

 

[Seanson]

Yes. Down air is my move. It's like a vacuum, and I can control where I land, or if I even need to go in at all while doing it. Large range in the downwards direction, long lasting, powerful. Comes out fast. I almost rather spam it than pk fire. PK fire tickles, and the d-air gets things done.

I see where you're comin from with the n-air. It does a lot of damage (~18% with all hits) and combos very nicely into most anything that isn't really slow, as long as the past hit misses of course. I'm a fan of n-air to jabs, but thats just me. I don't do it enough because like you said it seems a lot safer...

 

[Froth]

I use both interchangeably. It's not good to do the same thing over and over.... Plus sometimes it's hard to hit a certain character with one move. It's all about mindgames.

 

[Earthbound360]

I tend to use the nairs more often just because short hopping feels so natural to me, but I still love the dair.

 

[Tyr_03]

Dair is better. More combo ability and less punishable. SH Nair is great for mixing things up when your opponent starts shielding or dodging too much. Lucas has very few approaches. If you don't mix them up you will get nowhere against good players. Utilize all of your options.

 

[prOAPC]

nairer here, but nowadays i'm mixing them up because i'm getting predicted

 

[Dxt XXII]

Im more of a fairer.

 

[Smartidiot]

I use my Bair and Fair the most...

 

[pianodude700]

It appears to me that there are two types of Lucas's - Nairers and Dairers.

Sean is pretty much a dairer in his vids. I see him do tons of full hop Dairs, followed by a dtilt into fsmash.

I am a bit different, I like doing shorthopped nairs into ftilts or utilts. It feels slightly less risky although the payoff may not be as good. Also, you rarely get shield grabbed since you can pick which side to land on out of a nair. Before they have a chance to turn around and grab, you can fltilt them to oblivion.

What type of Lucas are you?

It's an OK strategy/preference, but it will take you forever to kill anyone, honestly.
And if you aren't a master at controlling whether or not the last hit lands, it's difficult to get a strategy going. I know I'm not.

Yes. Down air is my move. It's like a vacuum, and I can control where I land, or if I even need to go in at all while doing it. Large range in the downwards direction, long lasting, powerful. Comes out fast. I almost rather spam it than pk fire. PK fire tickles, and the d-air gets things done.

I see where you're comin from with the n-air. It does a lot of damage (~18% with all hits) and combos very nicely into most anything that isn't really slow, as long as the past hit misses of course. I'm a fan of n-air to jabs, but thats just me. I don't do it enough because like you said it seems a lot safer...

It's definitely the better move. I don't personally think it's spammable though. N-air is a lot more spammable, but again, it's not as risky or rewarding either. Pick your shots.

I use my Bair and Fair the most...

Lol.

Dair is better. More combo ability and less punishable. SH Nair is great for mixing things up when your opponent starts shielding or dodging too much. Lucas has very few approaches. If you don't mix them up you will get nowhere against good players. Utilize all of your options.

^ The sound advice.

 

[Brinzy]

Nothing wrong with bair and fair. Lol.


I hate nair.

 

[Tyr_03]

Actually there's a ton wrong with Fair if you're using it in short hops. Namely it can be perfect shielded and punished over and over. It's probably the riskiest approach you can try. I like Bair but it is annoyingly slow. Neither are anywhere near as good as Dair. Hating Nair is stupid. It deals with shielders and spotdodgers while leaving you completely protected unless the opponent counters with an attack as you're approaching.

 

[Brinzy]

Maybe I should clarify because it sounded like I'm saying fair is a great approach and nair is not:

Nothing wrong with bair and fair as actual aerials on their own, not comparing them to the others that you can use.

I personally hate nair, not because of what it can/can't do, but because I simply dislike the move itself. I dair.

 

[Froth]

Dair is better. More combo ability and less punishable. SH Nair is great for mixing things up when your opponent starts shielding or dodging too much. Lucas has very few approaches. If you don't mix them up you will get nowhere against good players. Utilize all of your options.

When the opponent starts shielding, I SH nair to roll right when i hit the ground, so i never get punished.

 

[Trozz]

Sounds improbable.

Whenever I knock someone out, I spam SH nair and bounce around the stage.

 

[Tyr_03]

^^^
lol same. SHFF Nairs look better than any of Lucas's taunts.

 

[Froth]

a lot better

 

[Trozz]

^^^
lol same. SHFF Nairs look better than any of Lucas's taunts.

Woo, someone else who does it.
btw, grats on 1111 posts. xD

 

[Tyr_03]

Make a wish

 

[SwastikaPyle]

Wow I thought I was the only one, too.

 

[prOAPC]

is there anyway to allways combo nair to ftilt or utilt, without hitting with the last hit of the nair?

 

[ParanoidDrone]

Fastfall the nair at the peak of your short hop to avoid hitting with the last part. idk if comboing into f/utilt is ever guaranteed or not.

As to my own preference, I gravitate towards dair more often than not. I feel safer using it than nair due to the vertical length of the hitbox. And maybe it's just me, but I'm apparently incapable of reliably comboing nair into tilts.

 

[brawlerbrad91]

i use dair way more for approaching, but nair is good when i need to switch it up, so is fair though, i rarely use bair if it's not for a spike, but it has good range so i'll use it occasionally

 

[x9whitey9x]

I'm more of a dair-er, but I do use the nair occasionally. It's just so much easier to get hits in with the dair, IMO.