Get Low
Smash Ace
Is there any situations where using a dashgrab would be more beneficial than using a Jump-cancelled grab? If so, please explain.
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Dashgrabs/Jump-cancelled grabs.
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Redact
Professional Nice Guy
Well for sheik I know that each type of grab has its benefits.
You can do dash attack -> grab (the same way you do jump -> grab for jc grab) and you'll do an extended dash grab, which my friend call a "boost" grab as it moves you more forward than normal, thus longer.
Where as JC grab for sheik is shorter, yet less lag/faster to grab.
As quoted from smash wiki:
"The boost grab is easier to perform in Melee. However, the player can't jump cancel the boost grab and only Sheik, Fox, and Falco get the most use out of it. "
You can do dash attack -> grab (the same way you do jump -> grab for jc grab) and you'll do an extended dash grab, which my friend call a "boost" grab as it moves you more forward than normal, thus longer.
Where as JC grab for sheik is shorter, yet less lag/faster to grab.
As quoted from smash wiki:
"The boost grab is easier to perform in Melee. However, the player can't jump cancel the boost grab and only Sheik, Fox, and Falco get the most use out of it. "
Acryte
Smash Ace
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Jump cancelling a grab is safer because usually the recovery time is considerably less than the dash grab. The jump cancelled grab has extended range due to the slide before the grab, but it's hitbox doesn't increase in distance. The dash grab's hitboxes might possibly be more or less disjointed from char to char, haven't researched it much but yea. I know some characters dash grabs can reach behind them like Marth's. Just check out the hitboxes from char to char, UsurperKingZant has a lot of characters hitboxes up on his youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/user/UsurperKingZant
http://www.youtube.com/user/UsurperKingZant
Bones0
Smash Legend
Isn't Samus's dash grab faster as well?
I always try to jump-cancel with Samus, since I feel like her dash-grab is just crap overall. Pivoting grabs with her (basically the same thing, except for spacing) is also very clutch. I don't know her frames, surprisingly. I do believe her grabboxes are fairly different for dash and jump-cancel grabs.
Bones0
Smash Legend
Yeah, running grab doesn't start faster, but it ends sooner. There's no reason to use standing grab except I think it grabs further.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
its april fools day
Mizar
Smash Ace
falcon has a hitbox behind him when he dashgrabs.Still I would only use JC grabs I guess.
Massive
Smash Champion
JC grabs will miss a crouching Jigglypuff/kirby on many characters when a dashgrab would work (mostly Sheik and Marth, sometimes Falcon).
This is the only reason not to JC grab unless you're going for the boostgrab.
This is the only reason not to JC grab unless you're going for the boostgrab.