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Dec 30 clowsui v Tako (Dedede)

clowsui

Smash Legend
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[COLLAPSE="MM 1"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHWGf3MQKBc&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fmwdAdjoPA&feature=youtu.be[/COLLAPSE]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_8UTilZhMw&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPE9LSx44uQ&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEX5VQNWZhA&feature=youtu.be[/COLLAPSE]

Newest sets. Have at it gentlemen! Note that I'd played maybe 2 hours of DDD vs Marth beforehand where I was tryharding...so my patience had been whittled down severely at that point. Hardcore johns but w/e :S
 

Skel'D3

Smash Cadet
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From my experience against Marth, shieldbreaker is a really nice option if it is smarted used.
When you don't know how to land and if DDD is waiting the landing to shieldgrab, don't Fair but try the shieldbreaker, trust me.

Also, when DDD is offstage or recovering, you don't punish it enough/at all ( sometimes ) one of the key of that MU is the pressure, when DDD is offstage, it's the moment to make damages.

You did the Fthrow x3 to Fsmash wich his really good ( Don't forget to spike when you have the opportunity )

You also have to juggle him a lot more, specially on battlefield, in the first match for exemple, I didn't see you upair at all. Try to put DDD in the air and don't let him landing.

Imo, the most boring part of the MU is to get the kill, at low percents, the damages taken by ddd could go up very fast.

If you have to be grabbed also, try to get grabbed from the end off the stage, not from the beginning, it's a free 30 percents for DDD

Another boring thing in this MU is when you're on the ledge, it's difficult to get on the stage again but marth has a lot of options you have to mixup, try differents ways to recover in function of the situation, sometimes it wiil be the shieldbreaker, other times the full hop Fair etc...

One last thing is, don't pass over the head of DDD, it's the worst position of the world at hight percents.
 

clowsui

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thanks =) the best example of my play vs DDD is probably in MM 2 G1, the one where i win. you'll see me do some of the things that you mention there...the shieldbreaker stuff i didn't think about, i'll try sometime and let you know
 

Shaya

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You give too much respect to dedede when he recovers.
You also are telegraphed a lot when you try and outspace dedede's bair. Tighter spacing would have had more positive results. I also think you play it a bit too aggressively.
 

VibeSlyph

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Watched first game. Where are the Nairs?

IMO instead of rushing D3 down and trying to open him up, you should be zoning him to make him uncomfortable. Also mix up your Fairs more. You like to just do a rising short Hop Fair and then fast fall. Don't be afraid to just do a fast falling Fair or a Full hop Fair.

well spaced Full hop Fairs aren't easy for D3 to punish when he's facing you.
 

clowsui

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first game of 2nd set is better example, i put all the vids up just cause i'm not a **** and put up games that i lose too ;p
 
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