Did Brawl Kill Melee?

[TipZ]

Right now Melee depends on the people still for it. That means hosting tourneys and getting everyone, even those playing brawl to join the action.

 

[Fenrir]

not only did brawl semi-kill melee, but fans expecting a new melee made it so that melee really killed brawl

Pretty much what happened...

 

[Zodiac]

Right now Melee depends on the people still for it. That means hosting tourneys and getting everyone, even those playing brawl to join the action.

Thats what every smash game and fighting game ever depended on.

 

[KosukeKGA]

So hop to it, guys!

 

[Ted PJs]

aint ded yet blud

 

[The Alpha Gundam]

Smash ain't dead in GA *points @ sig*

 

[N355]

What many people don't like is obviously lack of wavedash, l canceling, and double jump cancel. And of course lets not forget that brawl is slow compared to melee. Melee definately had more combo potential as well. I contemplated going back to melee and quitting brawl but decided against it, since I wasn't extremely skilled at melee. I do agree that Brawl killed the pros. I have played people that put up a better fight than some of the pros I played in brawl. I don't think it is fair to the pros that they have to start all over and relearn the game. Sometimes I wish brawl didn't come out. But what I really wish is that we got the same pysics of melee and added more characters and stages and of course some of the benefits of brawl such as the backwards ledge grab. Brawl is a dumbed down smash game, but still takes skill. But all in all i believe melee>brawl overall. I think a few years from now sakurai needs to make a new game that gets the best of both worlds. It is a sad situation and needs to be fixed with one more final game, although sadly I doubt that will happen because sakurai was originally planning to stop at melee, and he spent a lot of time on this game. If the fans get together and convey the message that things need to be fixed and a new game needs to be made, maybe they will listen. what have we got to lose?

 

[lismore]

We should make a parody of The Metal by Tenacious D only involving Melee.

Ha ha, YES!!! I'm on it

Seriously though, Melee will only die if we, those who still love and cherish it like the masterpiece it is (and prefer it to Brawl obviously!), let it. May Melee live forever!

 

[Miharu]

What many people don't like is obviously lack of wavedash, l canceling, and double jump cancel.

A typical response. But that's not the real issue; the main problem is that Brawl's innate physics engine and inherent mechanics simply lead to a slower, more boring playstyle to be highly effective/prevalent at the top levels of play.

And of course lets not forget that brawl is slow compared to melee. Melee definately had more combo potential as well. I contemplated going back to melee and quitting brawl but decided against it, since I wasn't extremely skilled at melee. I do agree that Brawl killed the pros. I have played people that put up a better fight than some of the pros I played in brawl. I don't think it is fair to the pros that they have to start all over and relearn the game.

That's not the issue, really. I think more people would be fine with relearning the game if the physics engine didn't blow. And as it stands, the skills of prediction and decision making (and more) still carry over into Brawl.

Sometimes I wish brawl didn't come out. But what I really wish is that we got the same pysics of melee and added more characters and stages and of course some of the benefits of brawl such as the backwards ledge grab. Brawl is a dumbed down smash game, but still takes skill. But all in all i believe melee>brawl overall. I think a few years from now sakurai needs to make a new game that gets the best of both worlds. It is a sad situation and needs to be fixed with one more final game, although sadly I doubt that will happen because sakurai was originally planning to stop at melee, and he spent a lot of time on this game. If the fans get together and convey the message that things need to be fixed and a new game needs to be made, maybe they will listen. what have we got to lose?

Sadly, this won't happen. Brawl's already selling very, very well, due to how it appeals to casuals and casual elitists (more stages, characters, eyecandy in general). Brawl appeals to the masses, and in the end, that's all that really matters for a company whose primary goal is to make money.

 

[debaser]

It's not like anything.

It's melee.

I'm sigging this. Melee is transcendent.

 

[kirbyownz26]

i think melee will live untill the next system that can't play gamecube games is made.

 

[kirbyownz26]

sorry forget something or when they make ssb4 this will happen for brawl

 

[Kio Iranez]

sorry forget something or when they make ssb4 this will happen for brawl

To a much lesser extent. The main reason this is happening for Melee and Brawl is because of Melee's incredible technical depth. Brawl and 64 aren't as technical, I'd say, so they are both missed or going to be missed less.

 

[Terrorking91]

All my friend play brawl now, I kinda laugh at them. I find melee to be more worthy to play in a tournament then brawl.


Melee FTW, Melee For Ever

 

[Sanu]

Short answer: Yes

Long answer: Yes, it did.




MAYBE ONE DAY PEOPLE WILL REALIZE.

CS 1.6 > SOURCE
HALO 2 > HALO 3
MELEE > BRAWL

Skillrequirement-wise.

 

[LOL_Master]

most people like to say brawl has different skill....right, cause air dodging multiple times hoping your opponent won't hit you is a 'different skill'

 

[Zodiac]

Short answer: Yes

Long answer: Yes, it did.




MAYBE ONE DAY PEOPLE WILL REALIZE.

CS 1.6 > SOURCE
HALO 2 > HALO 3
MELEE > BRAWL

Skillrequirement-wise.

Disagreed, Brawl cant kill melee, it wont.

 

[LOL_Master]

also even if there are no melee tournaments, melee still won't die, there'll be atleast one kid still playing it, even against a cpu, that means the game is still being played, that means the game still ain't dead

 

[Sanu]

Melee being dead refers to the tournamnet scene itself, don't be stupid, lol. The tournaments won't stop, but new people to the community will dribble in while others will splash on out. If you know math, think of it in terms of limits. As time -> infinite, x (amount of people) -> 0. The amount won't reach 0, but it will progressively dwindle down.

 

[LOL_Master]

in your dreams, maybe in canada, but not here, melee tournaments are increasing each time, get your facts right

 

[Sanu]

No, you have get your facts right, because what you're saying is just opinion. "Melee still won't die." Tell me that 20 years from now, you mindless troll.

 

[Ice Climbers P and N]

brawl does suck i never turn my back on melee NEVER :0

That's why you main Ike. xD

 

[LOL_Master]

no you anus, melee are picking back up and there's nothing you can do, it's not opinion, it's fact, calling me a troll, what facts do you have, douchebaggerydoughboy

 

[Best101]

Ha ha, YES!!! I'm on it

Seriously though, Melee will only die if we, those who still love and cherish it like the masterpiece it is (and prefer it to Brawl obviously!), let it. May Melee live forever!

lol it makes you wonder why Melee wasn't in Masterpieces in Brawl

 

[Sanu]

no you anus, melee are picking back up and there's nothing you can do, it's not opinion, it's fact, calling me a troll, what facts do you have, douchebaggerydoughboy

You're just digging yourself a deeper hole, lmao. Credibility--, especially with you resorting to name calling.

 

[cultofrubik]

Melee 4 Lyf. Gtfo h8rs. You know it's true. I can only enjoy myself in Brawl by maining Ganondorf. That's how unbelievably lame of a game it is.

Thankfully, i r live in the Atlantic South.

Melee will never die here. Not while I will continue to log on to this website.

 

[Grunt]

I can only enjoy myself in Brawl by maining Ganondorf.

Dun B hatin tha g-Dorf

 

[cultofrubik]

Thats actually the only lovin' in Brawl I have. lol

 

[LOL_Master]

You're just digging yourself a deeper hole, lmao. Credibility--, especially with you resorting to name calling.

life failure, plus trying to sound not like an anus fail. don't make me piss on your face.

 

[TipZ]

also even if there are no melee tournaments, melee still won't die, there'll be atleast one kid still playing it, even against a cpu, that means the game is still being played, that means the game still ain't dead

You're really stupid. That means SSB64 isn't dead, and it is. Then you changed your argument to Melee tournaments... Right now I personally believe it could go any way in terms of tournaments. Melee could come back or brawl with survive or both will die.