Down throw shenanigans practice

[3chairz]

So I'm probably gonna get trolled for this, but here goes:

I'm the kind of player that can't get good at something without practice. Nothing comes naturally to me but I also have very little mental blocks. Anyway, I've been told by Duck (midwest samus player) that I need get more consistent at my dthrow -> aerial followups (or as Duck likes to call it, 'the dthrow bull****').

So, is there a way to practice that without just playing another human being? Like, is there a level of CPU that does random DI after dthrow, or some other method for me to practice dthrow followups?

Thxs in advance for the help guys!

 

[Teczer0]

Dthrow aerial Samos or puff they have odd trajectories when dthrown but like .... That's all I can really come with. Are you trying to land dthrow aerial or hoping to do more with it?

 

[3chairz]

Just trying to practice landing the correct ones on reaction. For example, if I grab samus/puff, and I downthrow them, all I want to do is fair them if they di away, and then uair/fair them otherwise. I just need practice so that I can do it on reaction 100% of the time.

Currently I have bad habits like reacting to DI behind with weak bair, or reacting to no di with nair, etc. Just trying to get these weird reactions out of my game.

 

[Mr Wizzrobe]

If they get behind you, just turn around and fair/uair. They're usually not at an appropriate angle for a bair anyway, and not many people think of simply turning around and fairing them.

 

[KirbyKaze]

You can Uair them no matter how they DI.



Anyway, for practicing, just set the CPU Puff or Samus in training mode to evade.

To make them DI into you: run up to them and grab them as they try to jump over you / through you.

To make them DI away: run up to them, stop, let them up over you, and then dash towards them and grab them before they land.

 

[Van.]

So I'm probably gonna get trolled for this, but here goes:

I'm the kind of player that can't get good at something without practice. Nothing comes naturally to me but I also have very little mental blocks. Anyway, I've been told by Duck (midwest samus player) that I need get more consistent at my dthrow -> aerial followups (or as Duck likes to call it, 'the dthrow bull****').

So, is there a way to practice that without just playing another human being? Like, is there a level of CPU that does random DI after dthrow, or some other method for me to practice dthrow followups?

Thxs in advance for the help guys!

I had the same problem.

The way I overcame it is by holding away on a second melee controller with my foot to learn to recognize away DI and get the timing for it. Training mode is probably better if you don't like the c-stick tho'

 

[KirbyKaze]

You could also use the c-stick in 1P mode hack that's now available for hacked Wiis.

I prefer this, because it tells you if you did the combo correctly with "consecutive hits".

 

[3chairz]

You can Uair them no matter how they DI.

I thought that it's impossible to uair peach and most charas after a dthrow if they DI away? Are we talking specifically about samus/puff?

I had the same problem.

The way I overcame it is by holding away on a second melee controller with my foot to learn to recognize away DI and get the timing for it. Training mode is probably better if you don't like the c-stick tho'

Hmm, interesting idea. Will try.

You could also use the c-stick in 1P mode hack that's now available for hacked Wiis.

I prefer this, because it tells you if you did the combo correctly with "consecutive hits".

I need to hack my wii... I'll see what I can do. Where can I find the c-stick 1P mode hack?

 

[KirbyKaze]

I forget but it's probably somewhere in the Melee Workshop sub-forum of Melee Discussion.

D-throw Uair combos legitimately regardless of DI on Samus, Luigi, and Puff.

 

[Tope]

And peach!

 

[Strong Badam]

I need to hack my wii... I'll see what I can do. Where can I find the c-stick 1P mode hack?

what version of Melee do you have? 1.00, 1.01, or 1.02?

 

[3chairz]

And peach!

You can uair peach after dthrow no matter how she DIs? Do not purchase.

what version of Melee do you have? 1.00, 1.01, or 1.02?

Uhh, I donno. How do you check and what's the difference?

 

[KirbyKaze]

At KO percents it basically works on Peach (110%+). Not because it actually combos, but because she can't do anything about it.

 

[Tope]

because sheik is that good :D

 

[KirbyKaze]

I think I may have seen it combo in training mode at like 120% on DI away like once but I may have also been tripping balls. So I dunno. I have tried numerous times to replicate it but to no avail. I'm pretty good at 'hard' throw stuff with her too. I can CG at 0 pretty consistently in dittos, up tilt Falcon out of it with good consistency at low percent if he doesn't DI away, and hit the D-throw Uair on Puff at low percents with good consistency but I never could get it again on Peach.

My current theory is that I was tripping balls. But 'cuz it works in practice, I believe at a sufficient percent, Peach can't legitimately airdodge in time, DJ away far enough, get Up+B invincibility in time, or beat it with Nair. So basically it's like a Brawl combo.