Simikins
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Fair > Bouncing Fish
Forward Air to Bouncing Fish is Sheik's most used BnB combo, and deals 16% - 17% damage. Being arguably one of Sheik's best combos, it requires much testing, and so this is an ongoing project.
How to do it:
All of these percentages are tested without DI, rage, or staling, and by auto-cancelling the forward air.
Sheik’s Fair has 2 hitboxes. A weak 4% hitbox close to sheiks body, and a stronger 5% hitbox in sheiks arm and hand.
Here is the hitbox visualisation of sheiks fair, made by @Furil so you can see where each hitbox hits.
(Show GIF is 1.1.4 fair range, I can’t find the 1.1.5 fair range gif)
The 4% hitbox is weaker, and so combos into bouncing fish for longer, but is not at all safe on shield. The 5% hitbox is stronger, so doesn’t combo for as long, but can be spaced to be safe on shield.
Generally you want to play safe and space as far away as you can with the 5% hit, but if you’ve got a guaranteed punish use the 4% hit for an easier time comboing at higher percentages.
There are three methods of doing Fair > Bouncing Fish, and each are used for different percent ranges.
Method 1: Fair > Stationary BF
Method 2: Fair > Jump BF
Method 3: Fair > Dash Jump BF
Shortening/lengthening the Bouncing Fish is a must.
The percentages shown are the highest and lowest percentages I got Fair > Bouncing Fish to register as a combo in training mode, without DI.
Character |
Fair > Stationary BF
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4% Fair
|
Fair > Stationary BF
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5% Fair
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Fair > Jump BF
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4% Fair
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Fair > Jump BF
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5% Fair
|
Fair > Dash Jump BF
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4% Fair
|
Fair > Dash Jump BF
-
5% Fair
Mario | 19% - | - 87% | | | |
Luigi | 16% - | - 80% | | | |
Peach | 10% - | - 80% | | | |
Bowser | 18% - | - 106% | | | |
Yoshi | 20% - | - 90% | | | |
Rosalina | 15% - | - 75% | | | |
Bowser Jr. | 20% - | - 101% | | | |
Wario | 16% - | - 102% | | | |
Mr GnW | 15% - | - 71% | | | |
Donkey Kong | 17% - | - 110% | | | |
Diddy Kong | 17% - | - 84% | | | |
Link | 11% - | - 93% | | | |
Zelda | 11% - | - 80% | | | |
Sheik | 20% - | - 87% | | | |
Ganondorf | 17% - | - 95% | | | |
Toon Link | 10% - | - 83% | | | |
Samus | 5% - | - 91% | | | |
Zero Suit Samus | 10% - | - 81% | | | |
Pit | 15% - | - 96% | | | |
Palutena | 15% - | - 80% | | | |
Marth | 19% - | - 91% | | | |
Ike | 20% - | - 99% | | | |
Robin | 20% - | - 95% | | | |
Kirby | 12% - | - 77% | | | |
King Dedede | 15% - | - 111% | | | |
Meta Knight | 18% - | - 86% | | | |
Little Mac | 10% - | - 86% | | | |
Fox | 18% - | - 87% | | | |
Falco | 17% - | - 86% | | | |
Pikachu | 15% - | - 86% | | | |
Charizard | 18% - | - 94% | | | |
Lucario | 14% - | - 94% | | | |
Jigglypuff | 10% - | - 66% | | | |
Greninja | 20% - | - 93% | | | |
Duck Hunt | 15% - | - 91% | | | |
ROB | 15% - | - 101% | | | |
Ness | 10% - | - 78% | | | |
Captain Falcon | 20% - | - 110% | | | |
Villager | 10% - | - 81% | | | |
Olimar | 15% - | - 78% | | | |
Wii Fit Trainer | 14% - | - 85% | | | |
Dr Mario | 20% - | - 86% | | | |
Dark Pit | 15% - | - 95% | | | |
Lucina | 13% - | - 93% | | | |
Shulk | 18% - | - 85% | | | |
Shulk Jump Art | 15% - | - 82% | | | |
Shulk Speed Art | 18% - | - 85% | | | |
Shulk Shield Art | 49% - | - 135% | | | |
Shulk Buster Art | 15% - | - 82% | | | |
Shulk Smash Art | 10% - | - 64% | | | |
Pacman | 12% - | - 90% | | | |
Megaman | 20% - | - 102% | | | |
Sonic | 15% - | - 85% | | | |
Mewtwo | 10% - | - 81% | | | |
Roy | 20% - | - 97% | | | |
Ryu | 20% - | - 90% | | | |
Lucas | 9% - | - 79% | | | |
Cloud | 12% - | - 91% | | | |
Corrin | | | | | |
Bayonetta | | | | |
Brawler | 20% - | - 97% | | | |
Gunner | 13% - | - 90% | | | |
Swordfighter | 17% - |- 95% | | | |
Everyone | 20% - | - 66% | | | |
Credit time:
Simikins
Tested all %s (apart from the stuff done by Fyazko...)
@fyazko Checked all my %s a billion times, and tested Lucas & Cloud, and Shulks arts.
Wasserwipf
made the GIFs
Forward Air to Bouncing Fish is Sheik's most used BnB combo, and deals 16% - 17% damage. Being arguably one of Sheik's best combos, it requires much testing, and so this is an ongoing project.
How to do it:
All of these percentages are tested without DI, rage, or staling, and by auto-cancelling the forward air.
Sheik’s Fair has 2 hitboxes. A weak 4% hitbox close to sheiks body, and a stronger 5% hitbox in sheiks arm and hand.
Here is the hitbox visualisation of sheiks fair, made by @Furil so you can see where each hitbox hits.
The 4% hitbox is weaker, and so combos into bouncing fish for longer, but is not at all safe on shield. The 5% hitbox is stronger, so doesn’t combo for as long, but can be spaced to be safe on shield.
Generally you want to play safe and space as far away as you can with the 5% hit, but if you’ve got a guaranteed punish use the 4% hit for an easier time comboing at higher percentages.
There are three methods of doing Fair > Bouncing Fish, and each are used for different percent ranges.
Method 1: Fair > Stationary BF
Short hop then fast fall the Forward Air and immediately buffer Bouncing Fish. No other inputs needed.
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Shorten/lengthen BF as necessary. For this method you must always activate the BF as early as possible. Thanks to @fyazko for double checking my percentages, and putting up with me tweeting at him all the time :]
Shorten/lengthen BF as necessary. For this method you must always activate the BF as early as possible. Thanks to @fyazko for double checking my percentages, and putting up with me tweeting at him all the time :]
Method 2: Fair > Jump BF
Fast Fall the Forward Air and immediately buffer Jump and Bouncing Fish. At later percentages you have to delay the BF.
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Shorten/lengthen BF as necessary. For this method you must activate the BF as early as possible for the first half of when it works, and for the later percentages it is optimal to activate on reaction. At the latest percentages for this method you need to let the latest possible hit come out as otherwise it will not combo.
Percentages for this method will be added as completed.
Shorten/lengthen BF as necessary. For this method you must activate the BF as early as possible for the first half of when it works, and for the later percentages it is optimal to activate on reaction. At the latest percentages for this method you need to let the latest possible hit come out as otherwise it will not combo.
Percentages for this method will be added as completed.
Method 3: Fair > Dash Jump BF
Fast Fall the Forward Air and immediately dash forward and jump, then Bouncing Fish. At higher percents you will also have to use double jump.
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Shorten/lengthen BF as necessary. For this method you must activate the BF as early as possible, and for the later percentages it is optimal to activate on reaction. At the later percentages of this method you must also use double jump. You only need to dash enough to get momentum for your first jump.
Percentages for this method will be added as completed.
Shorten/lengthen BF as necessary. For this method you must activate the BF as early as possible, and for the later percentages it is optimal to activate on reaction. At the later percentages of this method you must also use double jump. You only need to dash enough to get momentum for your first jump.
Percentages for this method will be added as completed.
Shortening/lengthening the Bouncing Fish is a must.
The percentages shown are the highest and lowest percentages I got Fair > Bouncing Fish to register as a combo in training mode, without DI.
Mario | 19% - | - 87% | | | | Luigi | 16% - | - 80% | | | | Peach | 10% - | - 80% | | | | Bowser | 18% - | - 106% | | | | Yoshi | 20% - | - 90% | | | | Rosalina | 15% - | - 75% | | | | Bowser Jr. | 20% - | - 101% | | | | Wario | 16% - | - 102% | | | | Mr GnW | 15% - | - 71% | | | | Donkey Kong | 17% - | - 110% | | | | Diddy Kong | 17% - | - 84% | | | | Link | 11% - | - 93% | | | | Zelda | 11% - | - 80% | | | | Sheik | 20% - | - 87% | | | | Ganondorf | 17% - | - 95% | | | | Toon Link | 10% - | - 83% | | | | Samus | 5% - | - 91% | | | | Zero Suit Samus | 10% - | - 81% | | | | Pit | 15% - | - 96% | | | | Palutena | 15% - | - 80% | | | | Marth | 19% - | - 91% | | | | Ike | 20% - | - 99% | | | | Robin | 20% - | - 95% | | | | Kirby | 12% - | - 77% | | | | King Dedede | 15% - | - 111% | | | | Meta Knight | 18% - | - 86% | | | | Little Mac | 10% - | - 86% | | | | Fox | 18% - | - 87% | | | | Falco | 17% - | - 86% | | | | Pikachu | 15% - | - 86% | | | | Charizard | 18% - | - 94% | | | | Lucario | 14% - | - 94% | | | | Jigglypuff | 10% - | - 66% | | | | Greninja | 20% - | - 93% | | | | Duck Hunt | 15% - | - 91% | | | | ROB | 15% - | - 101% | | | | Ness | 10% - | - 78% | | | | Captain Falcon | 20% - | - 110% | | | | Villager | 10% - | - 81% | | | | Olimar | 15% - | - 78% | | | | Wii Fit Trainer | 14% - | - 85% | | | | Dr Mario | 20% - | - 86% | | | | Dark Pit | 15% - | - 95% | | | | Lucina | 13% - | - 93% | | | | Shulk | 18% - | - 85% | | | |Shulk Jump Art | 15% - | - 82% | | | |
Shulk Speed Art | 18% - | - 85% | | | |
Shulk Shield Art | 49% - | - 135% | | | |
Shulk Buster Art | 15% - | - 82% | | | |
Shulk Smash Art | 10% - | - 64% | | | |
Pacman | 12% - | - 90% | | | | Megaman | 20% - | - 102% | | | | Sonic | 15% - | - 85% | | | | Mewtwo | 10% - | - 81% | | | | Roy | 20% - | - 97% | | | | Ryu | 20% - | - 90% | | | | Lucas | 9% - | - 79% | | | | Cloud | 12% - | - 91% | | | | Corrin | | | | | | Bayonetta | | | | | Brawler | 20% - | - 97% | | | | Gunner | 13% - | - 90% | | | | Swordfighter | 17% - |- 95% | | | | Everyone | 20% - | - 66% | | | |Credit time:
Simikins
Tested all %s (apart from the stuff done by Fyazko...)@fyazko Checked all my %s a billion times, and tested Lucas & Cloud, and Shulks arts.
Wasserwipf
made the GIFs
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