Thanks so much! But im still a little confused by a few things. At what point is the direction reset? Like lets say I hit NW with the c-stick then NW with the joystick the frame right after (or vice versa). Would it input or only if the initial joystick/c-stick return to the center? I guess basically does one affect the other (aside from hitting the same frame). If it doesnt need to, it seems like the quickest way would be to pound NW on the joystick and NE on the c-stick.
Finally, still curious about why you think circling is better then hitting the diagnoles again just out of curiosity.
Anyways, thanks both of you! I think this is a rather big deal and should linked to in one of those guide stickies up top. I always had that burning question about what the best thing to do after being grabbed was, now i have a much better idea!
No I don't think that one affects the other, but the c-stick does not work if you do not let it reset to neutral.
Also, a Diagonal on the joystick counts as 16 frames, while a diagonal on the c-stick only counts as 8 (that's what it says in the original post). Not only that, but pressing either stick back and forth is much faster than just letting it reset to the center naturally. I suggested not using the c-stick because A,X,and Y are very close together and can be pressed just as fast, if not faster, than tapping the c-stick, but also count for more frame reduction when combined.
I suggested rotating the control stick because....diagonals feel weird for most people. It would indeed be worth learning to tap back and forth between diagonals, as overall it is more efficient, but if you for some reason don't want to put in the practice of making this process muscle memory, then rotating the control stick may suffice.
