Game & Watch Match-up Export Thread Directory

[Motel Vacaville of the West]

If you're under him, yes. If you're next to him with his back facing away, maybe not. The rest is either in your favor or even.

LOL, foot to face

 

[Gates]

LOL, foot to face

Actually, the correct term is Boot To The Head.

 

[Motel Vacaville of the West]

Actually, the correct term is Boot To The Head.

As long as it doesn't touch G&W's massive pump

Speaking of G&W's Jab, I like using it on heavies like DDD and Snake out of a shield.

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Hey guys, the Peach Boards are re discussing Mr. Game and Watch. Your input would be great

Here's the link

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=231934

Thanks in advance

 

[Motel Vacaville of the West]

Hey guys, the Peach Boards are re discussing Mr. Game and Watch. Your input would be great

Here's the link

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=231934

Thanks in advance

Just like D-Air, D-Air, N-Air, Jab, Jab, F-Throw

GAWSH

 

[Lightning Tiger]

As long as it doesn't touch G&W's massive pump

Speaking of G&W's Jab, I like using it on heavies like DDD and Snake out of a shield.

How effective is that?

 

[Lightning Tiger]

Can anyone explain when using Dair and u land theres another hit?
is it just a delayed hit or what?

 

[_Phloat_]

Can anyone explain when using Dair and u land theres another hit?
is it just a delayed hit or what?

I'll explain it the best I can. When using dair, and you land, theres another hit.

 

[Lightning Tiger]

How much dmg?
and would it be worth doing against snake?

 

[cutter]

It does 6%

I wouldn't use it liberally against Snake because if he expects it coming you'll get blasted with a Jab to Ftilt. Or he could shielddrop a grenade.

 

[Lightning Tiger]

How far apart is the last hit from the rest?
So in summary B Air. Land During B Air. Landing. Hit. right?

 

[Lightning Tiger]

Nother Question:
Will a Di'd B Air go through Snake's shield and eat it at the same time?

 

[Lightning Tiger]

DeDeDe can just F-tilt. It outranges G&W's Dtilt.

Would GaW dash attack cancel out D3's F Tilt?

 

[Gates]

You should be asking these in the Q&A thread, not the matchup thread.

 

[FzeroX]

I think it's time to change that matchup discussion O.o.

 

[TEECO]

This is an AWESOME thread. Excellent job on it, it looks nice.

I had no idea G&W was that bad against snake.

 

[Noa.]

Yes, G&W does super horrible against Snake and Marth.

G&W has too much trouble approaching.

 

[UTDZac]

Meh, I think G&W vs. Snake is even. Or slight advantage in Snakes favor. But I wouldn't call it "super horrible"

 

[cutter]

I just don't want to play Snake on Final D; that's all D:

 

[Noa.]

From what I've seen, a G&W playing the matchup wrong would have it super horrible. But when you play patiently, I could see it as only bad. But not even.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Vs Snake isn't super horrible.

He doesn't have Marth's insanely fast pressure game, so you can consistently punish him whenever he attacks. He doesn't have Marth's Up-B out of shield either, so he's liable to take shield pokes from time to time too (just don't be an idiot and attack his shield while he's holding a grenade, that's what grabbing is for).

Also, he can't punish you for throwing out Smashes the way Marth can. This matters a lot actually, since you can throw out F-smash a lot, and it will get him 95% of the time if he Mortar Slides. If he tries to do a tilt, you will probably clank and then get to shield/gtfo. Also, he's much more likely to air dodge than Marth, so Up-smashing him upon landing is A LOT more viable.

 

[Temple of Marduk]

Stupid question:
I've heard hylian talking about bair canceling.
What is exactly bair canceling? (Is there a video or something?)
and how does it work? Glad 2 hear..

 

[UTDZac]

Here's some info I posted a while back about bair cancelling:

bair cancelling is an interesting AT for G&W.

To do it: you just use bair right before you land on the ground. This allows for the initial animation frames of the attack to come out. However you will land before the hitbox actually comes out. This technique can't hurt the opponent and doesn't slow down or speed up G&W's landing lag. It technically does nothing.

However, it turns out this is quite useful at tricking your opponents who try to punish you bair spams. You can bair cancel into fsmash, or grab and usually end up hitting your opponent he drops his shield to punish the landing lag from your attack.

EDIT: Here's a video of Hylian doing it effectively. Take note, I did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j1ATOAoEdc

 

[A2ZOMG]

Hmmm, cool mindgame in that vid.

But WOOOOOW, Hylian did some really stupid things overall in that set. WTF, he totally did not see a shieldbreak. He ****ed up his own mindgames trying too hard to mindgame with Bucket.

 

[UTDZac]

Hmmm, cool mindgame in that vid.

But WOOOOOW, Hylian did some really stupid things overall in that set. WTF, he totally did not see a shieldbreak. He ****ed up his own mindgames trying too hard to mindgame with Bucket. And other silly stuff.

Hylian's not good? Gasp!?!?!?

It was the pressure of the moment. I was sitting next to him, bugging him. Laughing at his bair cancelling and how silly it was. My bad Hylian =P

EDIT: For clarity, I love Hylian. He's a good player. I'm just messing with him cause I like doing it. No need to get all angry at me =(

 

[A2ZOMG]

Okay, then screw you UTD Zac. =/

I got pretty upset watching that set...and the silly stuff that got him revenge killed after KOs.

 

[Hylian]

Okay, then screw you UTD Zac. =/

I got pretty upset watching that set...and the silly stuff that got him revenge killed after KOs.

Maybe that's because I was laughing during most of the set joking with Zac about BC'ing?

 

[Vinnie]

bair cancelling is an interesting AT for G&W.

To do it: you just use bair right before you land on the ground. This allows for the initial animation frames of the attack to come out. However you will land before the hitbox actually comes out. This technique can't hurt the opponent and doesn't slow down or speed up G&W's landing lag. It technically does nothing.

However, it turns out this is quite useful at tricking your opponents who try to punish you bair spams. You can bair cancel into fsmash, or grab and usually end up hitting your opponent he drops his shield to punish the landing lag from your attack.

EDIT: Here's a video of Hylian doing it effectively. Take note, I did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j1ATOAoEdc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIuvOVigF8s&feature=channel_page

I had it up several months ago, if this is what you're talking about.

edit: please don't mind my scrubby title or annotations. That was when I was a ******** noob, and my ******** noob account.

edit2: yes I know it's next to useless. lol

 

[UTDZac]

Yeah that's it. That's the original / first occurrence I've seen. Man that's old.

 

[Vinnie]

loooooooooool

 

[omegablackmage]

what do we want to move this to?

 

[Vinnie]

what do we want to move this to?

what?

10what?s

edit: ohhh. uhh, I guess peach. Praxis seems to be going even / ****** all of our good gnws ;_;

 

[UTDZac]

We could always re-discuss the Snake matchup. I have a different opinion on it now after APEX.

 

[cutter]

I wouldn't mind rediscussing either Snake or Peach. I don't have too much of a preference

 

[Motel Vacaville of the West]

I have a list...

R.O.B.
Falco
Fox
Wolf
Olimar
Lucario

 

[Valdens]

I wouldn't actually mind discussing Snake. I think it's closer to 60:40

 

[The Milk Monster]

What threats does Snake MAJORLY pose to Game and Watch?
Nade camp and that dreaded knee, though the latter could be less problematic with bucket braking.

 

[Hylian]

what?

10what?s

edit: ohhh. uhh, I guess peach. Praxis seems to be going even / ****** all of our good gnws ;_;

Uh...like who? lol.

 

[cutter]

Praxis still has yet to play me; I hope he can come down to G.O. because I am down for a MM.

Hey Zac did you ever play him?

 

[Noa.]

Rediscussing Snake wouldn't be so bad. Recently, I've had luck with Snake. You just got to play extremely patiently.

But is Snake as hard to fight as MK? We can't have them at the same ratios if one's harder than the other. And I'm not sure that we go 55:45 with MK.