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Smash Wii U Gamecubesque Wii U Controller

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Is this for real? If it is do you think it could be a good replacement for the Gamecube Controller? (Notice that it is Pro Controller with a Gamecube Controller Layout, so it works with all games that the GCN Controller do not support and still has the GCN Controller Layout)


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Why are there two Z buttons? Also, what does everyone think about the C-Stick being as big as the Analog Stick?
 

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Is this for real? If it is do you think it could be a good replacement for the Gamecube Controller? (Notice that it is Pro Controller with a Gamecube Controller Layout, so it works with all games that the GCN Controller do not support and still has the GCN Controller Layout)


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This image is old as dirt, it's been around not long after Brawl was announced. It's fake.
 

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Is this for real? If it is do you think it could be a good replacement for the Gamecube Controller? (Notice that it is Pro Controller with a Gamecube Controller Layout, so it works with all games that the GCN Controller do not support and still has the GCN Controller Layout)


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I really love your silhouettes, I like Metaknight, and I want to main Bowser Jr. but i think it's silhouette isn't as good as Metaknight's. Do you think hoy could update it?
Maybe but I tried to keep the coloring consistent with Jr and the Koopalings, unfortunately it made him a little less good looking. We can discuss it in that thread if you like
 

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Why are there two Z buttons? Also, what does everyone think about the C-Stick being as big as the Analog Stick?
The pro controller has two shoulder buttons, this would be meant to act as a pro controller being compatible with other games. Why would you disclude the other shoulder button? What benefit is that? Its 2014.
 

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It is a Pro Controller with the button Layout of a Gamecube controller. It was thinked (correct me if that`s not the word) to be a good alternative until the GCN Controller Adapter apeared. But it is still a good controller if you want a gamecube experience on the Wii U as the console recognizes it as a Wii U Pro
 

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In addition to the Mario and Luigi versions of the Hori controller, there is also a Pikachuu version.
 

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You spelled grotesque incorrectly...

Nah joking aside these look nice, I need a Mario one ofc.
 

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So if it's a combination of the Gamepad and the GameCube controller, are the shoulder buttons going to be analog (like the original GameCube) or digital (like the Gamepad)? I hope they actually code for analog presses in Smash 4... I miss light shielding...
 

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These are the ones that have to plug into the Wii remotes to work. I like the idea of these controllers, but I don't want to plug into a Wii remote instead of the system since I'd be reliant on AA batteries instead of a direct cord connection or internal batteries that charge via cable.
Also, if someone wanted wireless GameCube controllers, they could use Wavebirds. I've left mine on for multiple days by accident and still had bundles of battery to spare.
 

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So if it's a combination of the Gamepad and the GameCube controller, are the shoulder buttons going to be analog (like the original GameCube) or digital (like the Gamepad)? I hope they actually code for analog presses in Smash 4... I miss light shielding...
They are digital, as smash and no other game on wii u recognises analog pressing. I think that is why some people mod their GCN Controllers to remove its coil
 

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They are digital, as smash and no other game on wii u recognises analog pressing. I think that is why some people mod their GCN Controllers to remove its coil
Well, that stinks. Thanks for the info, though. That was useful.
 
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The Hori is the same right? Wii U Pro with a Gamecube skin? Is that allowed on tourneys?
The HORI pad will not be allowed at tournaments because it has a turbo function, which are universally banned from pretty much all fighting game tournaments of any kind.
 
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The HORI pad will not be allowed at tournaments because it has a turbo function, which are universally banned from pretty much all fighting game tournaments of any kind.
Most arcade sticks have a turbo function, that's pretty standard from what I can tell. Is this just a ban in Smash tournaments or just something I missed hanging out in Evo side tournaments last year? No mention was made of turbo functions in the Skullgirls or Melty Blood side tournaments, at least.
 
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Most arcade sticks have a turbo function, that's pretty standard from what I can tell. Is this just a ban in Smash tournaments or just something I missed hanging out in Evo side tournaments last year? No mention was made of turbo functions in the Skullgirls or Melty Blood side tournaments, at least.
It can obviously vary depending on TO but I know for a fact that EVO for example outright bans turbo functions.
 

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Hang on, do you mean they ban sticks that happen to have turbo functions (i.e. most of them) or just ban the use of the turbo function specifically?

The sticks I've used (Hori Mini 3 and Qanba q4) will turn on an LED when the turbo mode is turned on, so it's not easy to hide.
 
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Hang on, do you mean they ban sticks that happen to have turbo functions (i.e. most of them) or just ban the use of the turbo function specifically?
Well many tournaments may run the honor rule (don't use it or you're dq'd) but sometimes TOs don't even want to run the risk of a player abusing it somehow out of sigh, so they ban them altogether. I would avoid using a controller with it if I could just on the offchance this occurs.
 

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I would avoid using a controller with it if I could just on the offchance this occurs.
For Smash that isn't an issue, the official controllers are what the game was designed for. I'm just really curious/concerned with regards to 2D arcade fighters, as those are designed for arcade cabinets and their sticks rather than any consoles' official gamepad, and pretty much any arcade stick I can find has a turbo function on it. I fail to see how a tournament could be run at all unless everyone happens to have super-basic sticks.
 
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For Smash that isn't an issue, the official controllers are what the game was designed for. I'm just really curious/concerned with regards to 2D arcade fighters, as those are designed for arcade cabinets and their sticks rather than any consoles' official gamepad, and pretty much any arcade stick I can find has a turbo function on it. I fail to see how a tournament could be run at all unless everyone happens to have super-basic sticks.
Let me rephrase.

Use of the turbo functionality is prohibited by all means, controllers with turbo functionality not necessarily, but there's more to it.

Well...you know how there is a consequence for pausing? More buttons in the middle part of the controller heightens the chance of a mispress, because if you hit pause or activate turbo you're forfeiting a stock/dq'd.

It just makes sense from a competitive standpoint to lower the possibility of such an error to a point where it is non-existent, and for all intents and purposes, the Hori controller doesn't do anything the Gamecube controller can't do in Smash, and even more, you gain the benefit of a wired connection (however much of a benefit you perceive that to be).
 

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Ok what does turbo mode exactly does
Basically, Turbo makes it so that the controller automatically presses the button very rapidly for you. If you ever want to play Mario Party with your friends, make sure you take the controller with Turbo.
 
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So I press A and the controller keeps sending the A signal?
Essentially it removes all essence of timing by allowing you to hit an input at the very quickest possible frame. This is obviously something that is greatly frowned upon in competitive play, I'm sure you can hazard a reason why.
 

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Use of the turbo functionality is prohibited by all means, controllers with turbo functionality not necessarily
That's more consistent with my experience. Confusion resolved.

Well...you know how there is a consequence for pausing? More buttons in the middle part of the controller heightens the chance of a mispress, because if you hit pause or activate turbo you're forfeiting a stock/dq'd.
Yeah, that makes a lot more sense for this Hori GCN-like pad than for arcade sticks, as the typical arcade stick puts the turbo button far out of the way and makes the button difficult to press, so activating turbo by accident is near impossible. I wasn't considering how in the way the turbo button on 3rd-party gamepads is.
 

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The fact that it functions as a Classic Controller (i.e. needs to be plugged into a Wiimote to work) makes this an utterly decisive no-buy for me.

I'd prefer making a decision between being completely tethered (GCN Controller with USB adapter) or completely wireless (Wii U Pro). This option presents the worst for me. It's annoying to have to tether myself to a wireless remote that dies quickly.

I'll wait for a reliable Wii U Pro controller that has a GCN button layout to appear on the market.
 
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Given how tricky it can sometimes be to connect wireless controllers, and how easy they reconnect after you've turned them off and left the system, tethering yourself will probably be the option TO's will appreciate the most.

Thankfully Smash doesn't get totally confused if more than 2 controllers are present, but I still doubt wireless controllers would be appreciated.
 

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I would consider using one of these if it came in a neutral color (or Fire Emblem, admittedly). Not interested in a Mario/Luigi/Pikachu version, though.
 
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Just remember to not mistake the Hori pads for the PDP ones. The PDP Gamecube-style controllers are kinda cheap and wonky, tbh. The stick juts out too far, feels light, and some other stuff.
 

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Well today I just bought a Wii U Pro Controller and I must say that it feels extremely confortable. The photos do not do justice to it. I`m sad to say though, that I have to wait until Xmas to get Smash. Maybe if the GC Controller were usable with more Wii U games I could think on buying one
 
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