Slowz
Smash Rookie
Hi, this is just a brief little guide for anyone that had as much trouble as a did getting the Gatling Combo under their belt for G&W. First, I will explain what the Gatling Combo is, then I will explain its forms, and how it may be applied to your G&W play.
A Gatling Combo is, as the title states, a Dash Attack canceled immediately into an Up-Smash. Think of a DACUS, but much easier on the hands and not as bad to get down. It also requires you to hit the foe with your dash attack, and perform the input for the combo on the first frame of connecting the hit.
Also, unlike DACUS, the Gatling Combo isn't a true cancel; it simply interrupts the end-lag of the on hit of the dash-attack into an up-smash. DACUS, however, is an immediate cancel into an up-smash with a very, very tight window for execution. Only a few characters have accesses to the Gatling Combo, with our main man G&W being one of them.
Here's a short list of everyone capable of the Gatling Combo (That I know of):
G&W
Wario
Falco
Jigglypuff
Ivysaur
Sonic
(This list is courtesy of TheReflexWonder, from a 2.5 video you can view here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxq2TSnakNc)
Please feel free to inform me if any of the new cast members are able to perform a Gatling Combo, and I will add them to the list.
Now, back to how to perform the Gatling Combo. You should first know that doing this combo with the C-Stick is, as far as my tests have gone, impossible. If anyone would care to prove me wrong, please say so and I will edit this.
EDIT:
Second, when you input the combo, do not take your finger of the analog stick. Instead, flick/slide it to the next position.
Third, start off slow, in training mode. If you're having trouble doing it right off the bat, turn down the game speed to 1/4 until you can land it consistently, then bump it up to 1/2, 2/3, and so on until you are back at regular speed. The timing will come with practice, trust me.
Alright, here it is, the moment you've been waiting for; the combo's input! Start with a dash, initiate a dash attack, IMMEDIATELY flick your control stick from the left/right up and perform an up-smash, in a swift, controlled manner. You should get damage from your dash attack and start performing an up-smash while still sliding across the stage. You should also only tap the attack button twice during this entire combo; don't try to just spam the button. I've tried, it doesn't work. Refer to the video above to see what I'm talking about.
NOTE: You MUST land the dash attack, and the flick-to-up-smash maneuver should be done IMMEDIATELY after it lands. For G&W, you won't even hear the sound effect for the dash attack before you start the sliding animation into your up-smash.
Remember, the dash attack MUST hit on the FIRST FRAME to perform the Gatling Combo.
It should also be noted that G&W also has access to a grab-canceled version of this technique; it works very well on the heavier-set members of the cast. The timing is much more forgiving and you can easily pivot the grab. I have zero clue if anybody else can do this, so please, inform me below if you know of anyone.
As for what this combo can do for your game, it should be noted that, for G&W, Up-Smash is part of that group of moves that makes the character. It's a kill move that deals 22-23% damage and has amazing knockback. The only drawback is that it's, surprise suprise!, very slow.
The Gatling Combo serves to remedy this problem; it catches your foe and carries them along the dash-attacks knockback into the up-smash. For G&W, this is an incredibly easy 33%, and can be charged for mindgames/predictions/ect. Of course you must account for DI and such, but this is for you to work with.
In short, I would call the Gatling Combo for G&W a must learn, as it quickly becomes a bread'n butter combo that works on a great deal of the cast.
Well, I do believe that sums it up! Please, review/comment on any you may see wrong, tell me if you had any success with my guide, ect. Thanks!
(You may also wish to refer to Hini's thread over the Dash-Attack-Grab-Cancel variant of the combo here: http://smashboards.com/threads/dagc-dash-attack-grab-cancel-or-ya-mom-incomplete.335238/)
A Gatling Combo is, as the title states, a Dash Attack canceled immediately into an Up-Smash. Think of a DACUS, but much easier on the hands and not as bad to get down. It also requires you to hit the foe with your dash attack, and perform the input for the combo on the first frame of connecting the hit.
Also, unlike DACUS, the Gatling Combo isn't a true cancel; it simply interrupts the end-lag of the on hit of the dash-attack into an up-smash. DACUS, however, is an immediate cancel into an up-smash with a very, very tight window for execution. Only a few characters have accesses to the Gatling Combo, with our main man G&W being one of them.
Here's a short list of everyone capable of the Gatling Combo (That I know of):
G&W
Wario
Falco
Jigglypuff
Ivysaur
Sonic
(This list is courtesy of TheReflexWonder, from a 2.5 video you can view here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxq2TSnakNc)
Please feel free to inform me if any of the new cast members are able to perform a Gatling Combo, and I will add them to the list.
Now, back to how to perform the Gatling Combo. You should first know that doing this combo with the C-Stick is, as far as my tests have gone, impossible. If anyone would care to prove me wrong, please say so and I will edit this.
EDIT:
Credit to SpiderMad.
Second, when you input the combo, do not take your finger of the analog stick. Instead, flick/slide it to the next position.
Third, start off slow, in training mode. If you're having trouble doing it right off the bat, turn down the game speed to 1/4 until you can land it consistently, then bump it up to 1/2, 2/3, and so on until you are back at regular speed. The timing will come with practice, trust me.
Alright, here it is, the moment you've been waiting for; the combo's input! Start with a dash, initiate a dash attack, IMMEDIATELY flick your control stick from the left/right up and perform an up-smash, in a swift, controlled manner. You should get damage from your dash attack and start performing an up-smash while still sliding across the stage. You should also only tap the attack button twice during this entire combo; don't try to just spam the button. I've tried, it doesn't work. Refer to the video above to see what I'm talking about.
NOTE: You MUST land the dash attack, and the flick-to-up-smash maneuver should be done IMMEDIATELY after it lands. For G&W, you won't even hear the sound effect for the dash attack before you start the sliding animation into your up-smash.
Remember, the dash attack MUST hit on the FIRST FRAME to perform the Gatling Combo.
It should also be noted that G&W also has access to a grab-canceled version of this technique; it works very well on the heavier-set members of the cast. The timing is much more forgiving and you can easily pivot the grab. I have zero clue if anybody else can do this, so please, inform me below if you know of anyone.
As for what this combo can do for your game, it should be noted that, for G&W, Up-Smash is part of that group of moves that makes the character. It's a kill move that deals 22-23% damage and has amazing knockback. The only drawback is that it's, surprise suprise!, very slow.
The Gatling Combo serves to remedy this problem; it catches your foe and carries them along the dash-attacks knockback into the up-smash. For G&W, this is an incredibly easy 33%, and can be charged for mindgames/predictions/ect. Of course you must account for DI and such, but this is for you to work with.
In short, I would call the Gatling Combo for G&W a must learn, as it quickly becomes a bread'n butter combo that works on a great deal of the cast.
Well, I do believe that sums it up! Please, review/comment on any you may see wrong, tell me if you had any success with my guide, ect. Thanks!
(You may also wish to refer to Hini's thread over the Dash-Attack-Grab-Cancel variant of the combo here: http://smashboards.com/threads/dagc-dash-attack-grab-cancel-or-ya-mom-incomplete.335238/)
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