General ICs Q&A Thread

[ChibiIceClimberz]

I commented on those. (ShinyDragonite11)

By the way, who keeps doing the thumbs down anyway? O.o

 

[boredpsycopath]

i know this seem like a dumb Question but when i watch vids and ice climbers squall they do the nice super straight squall and when i do it i die.


How do you do those good squalls?

 

[Barge]

i know this seem like a dumb Question but when i watch vids and ice climbers squall they do the nice super straight squall and when i do it i die.


How do you do those good squalls?

Vertical?

Press B fast.

 

[boredpsycopath]

so side B -> b repeatedly ?

 

[ChibiIceClimberz]

so side B -> b repeatedly ?

FAST.

I lightly mash B to get a lot of vertical height, so ya. Just mash B as fast as you can. (:

 

[Barge]

Ice climbers can make it across FD with maximum height squall.

 

[momochuu]

Barge~

Less DAir. You usually just can't...walk up to someone and grab them. Especially jigglypuff. @_@ Use more Blizzards and Squalls and UpAirs. You can't get focused on getting a grab on a character like Jiggs. I didn't watch all of it. Just like the second stock. But I think that's enough. =S

 

[boredpsycopath]

lol thanks cus when i play i just never repeatedly pressed it so it was like Cmon popo go nana and they were just like plop dead lol

 

[Barge]

More blizzard huh, I noticed I didn't use blizzard much that match.
Usually I think I over use it >_>

 

[boredpsycopath]

lol i forget to shield on the most dumbest thing lol

 

[FrozenHobo]

Well I can't do it right if its wifi.
The timing changes almost every match.
Lag is ever changing online.
1 game can be fine, the next hell.

well, then your problem is simple.... YOU NEED MOAR COWBELL!!!!

 

[Barge]

None the less, that game was pretty bad for me.
The other games I could chain grab well.

 

[boredpsycopath]

i hate timing cg Against wifi's lag

 

[FB Dj_Iskascribble]

Does setting the c-stick for grabs make chain throws any easier?

 

[boredpsycopath]

my personal preference is x= grab y= jump c-stick = smash cus c-stick is a great thing to have for smashes

 

[lain]

i brought up their sideb awesomeness so long ago in this silly thread about how ic's can go under FD with their recovery, and how in fact they can really recover from basically anywhere off the screen because it's so ridiculous.

 

[Kage Me]

Does setting the c-stick for grabs make chain throws any easier?

Chain throws, no.
You kinda need a directional button set to attacking in order to finish off a chaingrab, unless you're near an edge, in which case a f-air meteor is probably the safest way to do it.

 

[B0mbe1c]

i brought up their sideb awesomeness so long ago in this silly thread about how ic's can go under FD with their recovery, and how in fact they can really recover from basically anywhere off the screen because it's so ridiculous.

SideB is usually the best recovery option for recovering because the opponent would probably be waiting for you on the edge.

 

[Barge]

Okay heres another video. Same person, same room.
Just less lag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy0OaMW3iSU

 

[illinialex24]

Okay heres another video. Same person, same room.
Just less lag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy0OaMW3iSU

It was the same day and my recollection was the same amount of lag...

And please let the fact that I got ***** in no way alter your opinion. There's a reason for my signature...

 

[boredpsycopath]

whats the point of Shorthop for IC?

 

[FrozenHobo]

whats the point of Shorthop for IC?

you want to keep them close to the ground. short hops allow aerials while staying close to the ground.

 

[B0mbe1c]

whats the point of Shorthop for IC?

SH Blizzard is better than grounded blizzard.

 

[boredpsycopath]

o ok thanks i just thought that tap jump would be the same but the short hop is nicer. ^^

 

[POKE40]

What is the IC's worst-matchup?

 

[Barge]

What is the IC's worst-matchup?

In my opinion, metaknight, gnw, snake

 

[FrozenHobo]

In my opinion, metaknight, gnw, snake

you forgot rob.

 

[lain]

What is the IC's worst-matchup?

Uhhhh....

Snake? G&W kinda. Metaknight theoretically.

 

[NinjaFoxX]

What is the IC's worst-matchup?

Marth,the ****** with too much range and outprioritizes everything

or maybe i just keep getting 3stocked by dannykat too much, idk...

 

[B0mbe1c]

I think, for me, ROB is hardest to play against. I can take on Snake with some problems, but ROB... >__>

 

[ChibiIceClimberz]

In my opinion, in order are: MK, Snake, R.O.B

• Isn't MK obvious?
• Uh, everytime I face Snake the tilts they only use are f-tilt and u-tilt, and spam his jabs, especially the nades, DAC, etc.
• I've faced R.O.B and he's in between easy and hard; once you juggle him it makes things easier, and spamming Blizzards and Ice Shots are helpful. D-smash, Gyro, n-air, and f-air are so annoying though. >_>

 

[illinialex24]

I'm posting this for Barge. This is match 3, please critique it for him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqXmDwFlE9s&fmt=6

He was looking for critique from the videos I uploaded so....

 

[momochuu]

Lol, first stock was Melee combo video potential.

 

[illinialex24]

Lol, first stock was Melee combo video potential.

Thank you . Its why both me and Barge have it in our sigs lol

 

[Barge]

I grabbed too much that match.

 

[Deleted member]

Why should I ever use a dash attack? Hyphen smash deals double the damage and is only very slightly slower.

 

[Bnzaaa]

Why should I ever use a dash attack? Hyphen smash deals double the damage and is only very slightly slower.

While Up-Smash is only 2 frames slower and more powerful, you want to generally save your Up-Smash for the kill, especially for a chaingrab finisher. The end lag of Up-Smash also makes it difficult to follow up with another attack.

Dash attack pops your opponent into the air, and has less end lag, so it makes it easier to link into another attack like Up-Air. It's extremely useful for characters that are weak from below like Rob or Marth.

 

[lain]

Saving their Usmash for killing doesn't matter. You're Ice Climbers. Besides, Fsmash ***** at like 86% (near the edge).

Dash attack can be helpful if you're just looking to close the gap with an attack that has a hitbox that stays out for a bit. KINDA useful, but in a situation where if you had hit them with dash attack, you could have just ran in and grabbed.

Now people are always looking for this, thus the dash attack option is pretty null and void.

I'm not saying it's not used every now and then though.

 

[AvariceX]

Since I'm pretty much cut off from any Smash opponents right now; and will be for several months except when travelling to tourneys; I decided to practice the one thing in Smash I can do without an opponent XD.

My question though, is dear god why does Nana shield roll? I can do the chain-grabs pretty consistently now (not quite consistent enough, but I'm averaging 0-90ish), but when I do the Popo bthrow -> Nana re-grab sometimes Nana rolls. I could understand this since holding the grab button + tapping a direction does make you roll...except she rolls in the opposite direction.

Example: Popo is holding Marth, Popo and Nana are both facing to the right. Popo throws Marth to the left and I try to re-grab but instead she rolls to the right.

Why would this happen? And I guess more importantly: how do I make it not happen?

Unrelated: For some reason I'm finding MK much harder to time the fthrow re-grab against than most other characters.

 

[l!nk_aut]

u´re pressing z and back at the same time. so nana does a z-roll.
u need to press z a little later then u press backwards. nearly the same time but not at the exact same time.