Definitely not moving Marth/Lucina up that far.
Dedede did relatively well against Marth in Brawl and still does.
We completely outrange Marth with ftilt. Even Shieldbreaker could only hope to trade with it. Meaning you should be expecting an approach from the air.
If an aerial gets perfect shielded, if an aerial is poorly spaced, we have the range to punish.
That and Marth can have difficulty reflecting Gordo in tight situations without really committing to something that can get punished. And Marth's straightforward recovery leaves him open to be gimped.
All those things apply to Lucina.
And I don't really think either of them are particularly common, either.
Can't so I know much about Falco, but he doesn't seem like he would be that much of a problem.
Unlike in Brawl, using his Blaster actually requires a bit of commitment. Once we get in, we outrange him.
I'm waiting to see how much more Palutena's customs develope. If anything, that's why she would move up. Until then, she isn't that common, and she isn't that much of a problem without customs. Her smashes are potent but very telegraphed.
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- The current schedule is not that set-in-stone. If you would like a change in the schedule, please PM (start a conversation) with me privately and tell me what you'd like changed and why. Note, however, that the next three characters after the one being discussed at the time cannot be altered. (Ex. Since we're currently discussing Diddy Kong, the order of the next three characters there now, Sheik, Rosalina and Zero Suit Samus, will not be changed.) So be sure to bring up any potential changes in advance.
Pay attention to the bold, please.
At most right now, I'll potentially move Yoshi (or anyone) to between Zero Suit and Sonic.
I wanted to have this one rule for organizational purposes, and just so I'm not trying to figure stuff out the Sunday I should be starting up the next discussion.
If I make an exception for any character, then all bets are off and I might as well have never said the rule in the first place.
I hope Sheik not being in that list is a typo.
Keep in mind that being a "sleeper threat" is not enough to move a character that high, I think.
The important thing to remember is that the schedule is, in essence, ranking how important it is to know each match-up. A match-up being perceived as good or bad is only part of that. It also depends on how common a character is. How likely it is that you'll need to know the match-up in the first place. That's the real reason Diddy and Sheik should be the first priorities.
That's not to say being actual threats shouldn't be taken into account, but it isn't the main priority. The actual amount of people
using that character, threat or not, should also be considered.
So a character will not be moved as far as you've moved Wario up for that reason alone. If Wario stops being underdeveloped and many people start using him, then he can move up that high if the match-up still proves tough. ('Cause you may have just had trouble due to unfamiliarity with the character in general.) Same for Samus.
That said, I'm not the most knowing player in the world. I don't
really know how the characters should be ranked for our purposes. If more people want to back you up, then I'm all ears.
Now, Yoshi is a threat and is pretty common at that, so let's talk about that. I've honestly been debating bringing him up more. Perhaps putting him between Sonic and Captain Falcon.
If more people think it should happen, then I'll make it so.