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God, how to you beat ZSS?

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doodmahn

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This guy that was really good with her in a tourney just crushed me. Freaking paralyzer combos (B, Dsmash, Dsmash, ^B)... :p Well, I know that once you get her airborne, she's very weak (first hand experience), but how do you beat her? BTW if you didn't notice, I'm a G&W main. (Bucket sort of worked, but then she'd just B> me...)
 
ph00tbag

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I have an idea, but the game wouldn't be as much fun if you didn't figure it out for yourself, would it?
 
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fkacyan

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Yes, I'm going to tell you how to beat my alt. That would make life far easier for me when I choose to play her.
 
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Here's an idea! PRACTICE! >_>
 
Dark_Meow1

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Her main focus downfall is recovery. Also, my friend RunningBrave mains GW and he uses alot of Bairs when I'm approaching. That's all I can help with.
 
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Dark_Meow1 said:
Her main focus downfall is recovery. Also, my friend RunningBrave mains GW and he uses alot of Bairs when I'm approaching. That's all I can help with.
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Kitamerby

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Don't get hit.

Also, Zamus is pretty light, so G&W's hard hitting smashes should finish her off as soon as she gets into kill percents.

Until then, use lots of bair, nair, and air combos, and just remember to take her out as soon as possible with full-blown kill moves so she can't recover. Zamus has ridiculous recovery if you don't edgehog her, and might bring you down with her if you do.

She's also useless when she's above someone, but her dair will get her down quick if you don't knock her out of it with G&W's insane uair, nair, usmash, utilt, etc.

I'd also recommend the Summit or Frigate Orpheon due to the lack of edges for Zamus to try to recover. Makes it twice as easy to edgehog, cuz you don't need to. : D
 
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Kitamerby said:
Don't get hit.

Also, Zamus is pretty light, so G&W's hard hitting smashes should finish her off as soon as she gets into kill percents.

Until then, use lots of bair, nair, and air combos, and just remember to take her out as soon as possible with full-blown kill moves so she can't recover. Zamus has ridiculous recovery if you don't edgehog her, and might bring you down with her if you do.

She's also useless when she's above someone, but her dair will get her down quick if you don't knock her out of it with G&W's insane uair, nair, usmash, utilt, etc.

I'd also recommend the Summit or Frigate Orpheon due to the lack of edges for Zamus to try to recover. Makes it twice as easy to edgehog, cuz you don't need to. : D
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Why the hell are you telling people how to beat us I mean seriously?! =/
 
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theguyfromlabyrinth said:
The point of these forums is to share knowledge, not to hoard it.

It's not like good players will never learn how to face ZSS.
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We don't tell people our weaknesses, that's what the other character forums are they share them there.

We don't just give out our weaknesses and say "Oh this is how you beat my main!" it ruins the point of maining the character! Either figure it out yourself or ask on your characters main board.


mr_kennedy44 said:
Most other character forums will give helpful advice if someone asks for some help with defeating their character. Just pointing this out.
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I just don't expect people to blurt out how to beat our main and tell them every weakness we have, since albeit not many people use her. I'm pretty sure other character forums have matchup threads do they not?
 
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get over it darkshadow now people know how to generally beat zss now its up to u to use ur knowledge and skill to win, its not like they can automatically beat u now because some1 tells them what to do
 
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Mac Dre said:
get over it darkshadow now people know how to generally beat zss now its up to u to use ur knowledge and skill to win, its not like they can automatically beat u now because some1 tells them what to do
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You have a point, I overreacted. It's not like no one would figure it out anyways, I just feel a bit well odd just blurting out how to beat us in a battle. In the end a good player will always win..

Sorry to both people for harping on them.
 
BoredPeanut

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While it's true they'd figure out how to fight ZSS, giving out your information would be like going to get into a fight and being like "Hey wait, take this rocket launcher first! :D"

Oh well, we'll just go to the G&W forum and ask how to beat him :p
 
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ph00tbag said:
Maybe you guys like to hand out crutches to kids with stubbed toes.
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Exactly my point, I just feel odd saying "Here this is how you destroy me in battle!"

It takes away from the excitement...
 
ph00tbag

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0RLy said:
DSR, yeah it' just like telling a Marth User to fair and fsmash more... ><
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Precisely. I'd imagine G&W's standard game is at least decently effective against ZSS, and if G&W mains come in full force telling me a bair approach doesn't work, then asking me is really pointless, since I don't know G&W's game well enough to beat a ZSS with him.
 
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Kitamerby said:
Don't get hit.

Also, Zamus is pretty light, so G&W's hard hitting smashes should finish her off as soon as she gets into kill percents.

Until then, use lots of bair, nair, and air combos, and just remember to take her out as soon as possible with full-blown kill moves so she can't recover. Zamus has ridiculous recovery if you don't edgehog her, and might bring you down with her if you do.

She's also useless when she's above someone, but her dair will get her down quick if you don't knock her out of it with G&W's insane uair, nair, usmash, utilt, etc.

I'd also recommend the Summit or Frigate Orpheon due to the lack of edges for Zamus to try to recover. Makes it twice as easy to edgehog, cuz you don't need to. : D
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you realize that all you did was describe how to play a G&W and then say "oh P.S. - edgehog"
 
Snakeee

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tag yeah said:
long range and good spacing, my friend mains marth and i rarely win while playing ZSS
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ZSS clearly outranges Marth.

I'll give a tip because it really doesn't matter to me, most people I play know the deal by now, and this is something people should easily notice. For most characters the best place to be in is the forward B's blind spot area. Not just because you can't get hit with the attack, but she can't really do much in general from there. This is especially good for Marth because he can reach her from there.
 
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Yup, and it leaves you vulnerable for a counter attack. That's why it's a good idea to stun them with down-b first, then rack up the damage with her whip.
 
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