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good pika?

Sp@Rk_93

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i know much good snakes, mk's,ddd's,........ but i dont know a good pika


who has the best/a very good Pika?
 

krehz

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not to try and sound rude, but you dont need a whole thread devoted to this, it is spamming the board and could be answered by posting on a thread already made, or just ask someone about it..... eveyone knows anther is the best pika player out there....... so asking any good pika player would have worked, i am not trying to be a jerk, just try and keep these kinds of posts to a minimum :p
 

5ive

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All the regulars here atleast average.

We don't need someone with one point judging us.
 

Muhznit

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All the regulars here atleast average.

We don't need someone with one point judging us.
Judging people by post count is a REALLY accurate measure of character. </sarcasm>

Yeah. Anther's definitely the "best" Pikachu player.
 

K 2

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Anther, ESAM, and Stealth Raptor are the big names I always hear about (from Youtube.) I think Anther is the best out of those three, but idk, they are all way better than me -.-
 

[FBC] ESAM

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Anther, ESAM, and Stealth Raptor are the big names I always hear about (from Youtube.) I think Anther is the best out of those three, but idk, they are all way better than me -.-
Anther is the best, you are right. Stealth is teh thunder specialist...and people say im very good.
 

K 2

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Anther is the best, you are right. Stealth is teh thunder specialist...and people say im very good.
I'm sure your way better than me. I would like to play against you sometime. I'm just curious how I rank among the "pros" (O_o)
 

Scissors Sir

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Great... another one of these threads...

Hmm I didn't know the line between good and bad was youtube videos. I'll keep that in mind.

I know by now most of you other pika mains out there must get tired of reading my posts. I'm just trying to keep you guys from gettin lazy and/or complacent with certain things. I don't contribute here as much as I used to in the melee section but i'll try to change that.

Only because I'm starting to see this section go back to more of a family type structure. I don't know what the hell was goin on months ago.
 

Scissors Sir

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Great... another one of these threads...

Hmm I didn't know the line between good and bad was youtube videos. I'll keep that in mind.

I know by now most of you other pika mains out there must get tired of reading my posts. I'm just trying to keep you guys from gettin lazy and/or complacent with certain things. I don't contribute here as much as I used to in the melee section but i'll try to change that.

Only because I'm starting to see this section go back to more of a family type structure. I don't know what the hell was goin on months ago.
 

Scissors Sir

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*facepalm*

You do realize I'm the closest thing to Anther right now.... right?

I made a choice to not post videos of myself anymore.

I miss the old school pika players... T_T

Not to take anything too much from anyone else around here.

I can't really explain it. Care to help me explain it Anther?
 

Scissors Sir

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The only thing i know scissors did was find out about the QAL.
I don't want to go over my whole resume but uhh...

In brawl i've placed top 8 (with a few top 3s) several times in NYC. NYC has a very good smash scene by the way.

I've contributed loads of information on the melee pika boards because I felt the people were cool enough to share with.

I'm not looking for anyone to meatride me but it just sucks to not get mentioned before people I KNOW I should be mentioned before. The only person that should be mentioned before me is Anther.

I'm not saying that no one else should be mentioned.

I don't put out videos because I don't need to prove anything to anyone. I do that in tournament.

And plus I don't want copycats that just take one or two things from em and run em into the ground.

The only videos you will see now are old, old OLD melee matches and a combo video from when I first started playin with pika.

Look up Yellow Rat ******* on youtube.

Or search for some of the other ones.
 

Van Jones

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Honestly, I don't remember anything about you. If you are important as you say you are, more people would know of you.
 

[FBC] ESAM

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And melee doesn't matter in a brawl board, so saying you contributed to the pikachu melee boards doesn't prove anything...yeah you have placed top 8 in NYC, and i have placed top 5 in SFL, where 7-10 top 10 players are. So....vids are really the best way to determine, because you can see how good your skills with various techniques with pikachu are.
 

Scissors Sir

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That's quite alright. I'm not putting out any videos. Like I said I have nothing to prove here.

This is so lame

Enjoy your Brawl Pika Boards. I thought things changed around these parts. Boy was I wrong...

I won't be around here anymore so you guys can rejoice or whatever the **** it is y'all do
 

[FBC] ESAM

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lol okay. If you aren't gonna show other people what they need, or do anything for the boards, since i haven't seen you here in...forever...*sigh* there is no point in you here.
 

Scissors Sir

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I thought Pika Pika placed first in NYC once?
He most certainly did NOT

Pika pika is from upstate new york. He placed 1st at some tourney around there.

Even though it's still in NY, that area is far, far away from NYC.

And NYC >>>> Upstate New York as far as smash. Like no joke

And for ESAM...

Ok... *cries* I know when I'm not wanted...*picks up imaginary luggage and walks out imaginary door*

Lmao

And I'm still to this day contributing in these parts. Just because i'm not posting videos doesn't mean i'm not telling you guys the same things you would see in those videos.

Pull up a chair my boy...lol let me tell you a little somethin.

Back in my day we didn't have a youtube or such to show people each others skills. All we had was tourney appearances and good old text. You wanted to know something? You either went to a tourney and found it out or read about it and try to put it into action as best as possible

All these new outlets for people to post videos and such.... okay I need to stop lol
 

[FBC] ESAM

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True, but I also have tournament results, but i have stopped going due to school and swim, so i have no time left...
 

Scissors Sir

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That's kinda my point.

I have tournament placings as well. I haven't just placed well at tournaments that good people were at. I've taken good people out of those tourneys.

And going by what I hear, other areas have 5-10 people that you have to worry about when you enter tournies there.

Around here it's about 15-20 people that are threats.

I think the problem people have with me is that i'm not showing humility anymore.

So let me try a different approach.

You guys may be good but I have just as much right to be mentioned. Just taking my placings alone into consideration should be enough.

Is that better?
 

Stealth Raptor

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seriously enough arguing. I would love to see more people contribute, not get chased off cause he doesnt have videos or stuff. it isnt needed, and the tourney results speak for themselves. seriously, just by the qaulity of his posts he is better then most of us. especially those keeping up the argument. so shut up lol
 

Default_951

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KK, I don't usually pay much attention to results outside of my area tbh, just to whatevers happening in london, and southern UK. Anything else I tend to just pick up from talking to peeps.

@ Scissors, you said urself that you don't spend much time round these boards and even you must of noticed the number of new comers has risen alot, myself included. Unfortunately most of the newcomers DO just look up "Pikachu Brawl" on youtube to get an idea of how to improve their pika game and see how he plays at a higher level. People just see these names and assume their good, and post them, regardless of whether they know them or their placings. Before this thread I've only known you've done well, but I didn't know where or how well, other then top 3 at a few tourneys.
 

stevensteve

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*facepalm*

You do realize I'm the closest thing to Anther right now.... right?

I made a choice to not post videos of myself anymore.

I miss the old school pika players... T_T

Not to take anything too much from anyone else around here.

I can't really explain it. Care to help me explain it Anther?
prove it with vids. :) although you made a choice to not post vids of yourself, it's impossible for other players to recognize you when you have no evidence to back up your claim. yes, people could vouch for you. but still, seeing is believing; a video of your skills would definitely remove my current skepticism.
 

Veil2222

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It's great if you place well at tournaments, but this board is a community, if you aren't going to be a productive or active member of the community, don't expect to be mentioned. This is a brawl pika board, and this topic was mostly uneccesary to begin with. Pride is once thing, but what I've heard has been right down the line of arrogance, doesn't much matter how good you are, certain attitudes just aren't merited no matter who you are, which around the brawl/pika boards, you don't seem to have much a presence scissors.

If you wanna help out, got for it and people with start putting your name back in their "great players" list, if you just wanna ride your "not-really-fame" from your own tourney scene on a national board... well.. people really aren't going to give you merit even when you've got plenty of skill.


Now enough e-pean0r waiving, anthers vids are great for learning the variety of things you'll need to learn a good pika. The other things you will need is a decent competitive scene, a crappy player can get extremely good around a high level scene just by learning by getting beat.
 

Anther

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Dunno Ron, you kinda went facepalm and started ranting based off of Raptor agreeing with you XD. It's all good to feel a certain way but if you go into a community basically saying how much you hate it because it's less than an older one when the new one has a basis, it kinda works against you when you lurk in the shadows. Other players have expressed that they realize you're very knowledgeable when you post and have good information, but at the same time you tend to throw around sharp negatives and you've never really had your results for people to see. I had to do some searches to find out stuff XD.

If you didn't go on super secret introvert hide myself mode it'd make sense for people to at least know about you XD. Even with no vids just posting about experiences in general helps. But everytime I see you post they usually end with how you feel these pika boards aren't as good as the old ones, when back in the day I remember everyone johning it up about how the char isn't good XD.

Game's young and so is the new community. I think most of the people here are pretty optimistic and cool and I wish I had more time for input sometimes because my perspective on things that are posted contrast with the more general views, but ... I've lost sight of what I was talking about about here.

Pika's good, let's be good to eachother >.>. Yah there's a lot of Anther's top pika and I'm sure it's very arguable over the different regions, but I kinda just present myself a lot and attention ***** probably more than healthy, but I also do good too which helps =].
 

Peregrinus Falconidae

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Scissors Sir, I think you are an excellent contributor here - when you want to. That is the crux of the matter. It is easy to see from the quality of your few contributions that you have much to offer this community, and that you are quite a well informed person, but how can you expect us to name you if you haven't done much here? The big names here have mostly contributed a lot to this place. Perhaps you say that tourney results should be enough. The problem with this is that tourney results are not good to learn from; they are dry and bland, bereft of much substance that can improve one's game. Many new people who want to learn more will often search youtube to see matches and techniques, and if they see a decent player who they learn from, they will automatically assume that player to be good. This is a problem especially with the newer users here, who, having not seen any of your contributions and probably not seeing your videos, will have not heard a whit about you, whereas names such as Anther have been proclaimed like gospel to them, and they will think that there is a good reason for this, and quickly support the "Anther is pika god" opinion.

Also, as stated before, there is a line between pride and arrogance, and much of your posts have been bordering on downright arrogant. Perhaps there is a good reason for this, but how would I know? You haven't contributed enough to make me think so.

If you think the melee boards are better than the brawl boards, feel free to have your opinion, but there is no need to go telling everyone. Perhaps you are more comfortable with the melee boards as you are much more familiar with its users, but you need to remember how long brawl has been out (2 and a half months over here). As it is still quite new, the boards are subject to much change, people will come and go, trends will shape and change, and at the end of the maelstrom, things will then only begin to settle into something reminiscent of the melee boards. In time, they may be better or worse. No one can tell. We can only look to the future.

I would also like to state that if ever in this post I came across as insulting or accusing, please don't take it like that - I am simply stating my feelings, and you can take it in, or leave it.
 

Scissors Sir

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I understand what everyone is saying. But understand where I'm coming from for a second.

This all started back when I made a comment in the "Importance of QAC" thread that was made a while ago.

I said something to the effect of yes QAC is useful but I don't think it should be the deciding factor in whether you're winning and losing matches. I was immediately told "you sound like someone who hasn't mastered it..."
blah blah blah

Ever since then it seems like i've never really received a positive feedback from the things I do contribute. The same things that I know even someone like Anther finds useful. I'm not saying I'm some expert at EVERY single pika matchup.

But certain aspects of the matchups I did speak on were dead-on.

I don't want a pat on the back for every single post I make but people are acting like I do absolutely nothing around here.

I might not be making a new thread every day but I contribute in the ones that matter and stand a chance at making a difference.

And I believe the topic says "good pika"

since when is getting good placings in an area with a good scene not equivalent to being...you know...good?

I'm wrong for mentioning those placings just cuz it's in my area but ESAM's not for mentioning his in defense? Why? Because he posts here more and you guys have seen his vids?

I don't see what contributing here has to do with me having a "good pika"

Yeah maybe I can stand to post here more but it doesn't change the fact I'm a "good pika"
 

Stealth Raptor

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I have already talked to ESAM about it right after he posted (as most of us here dont like people strutting around saying how good they are/how superior they are). most of us here dont appreciate people walking around saying they are good etc. we know you are good, it isnt necessary for you to show it off. (this is more aimed at ESAM then you, as ESAM has done this before)

I do agree you have provided some valuable insight in the matchup threads. We are very greatful for it.
 

Veil2222

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Your tournament ranking scissors is *very* important, but only when applied with accessable information. It was said above that new people, or people trying to learn their game, will come here to find someone who had good videos, from there they will usually then look for posts by that person, and *maybe* after that they'll find out about tournament rankings as a sort of "back up" validity to the persons worth as a source of information.

I'll be honest, I started using pikachu seriously about 2 months ago, and when I came here to look for techs, matchups, and people to learn from, I didn't see a shread of anything from you. Granted I probably found some things you contributed on or even created, but I wouldn't know it because you're mostly a ghost as far as avaliable information goes. That's about all that matters here, you're only as good as your contribution and videos can say you are, people just aren't going to go on "well I'm high rank in my scene and I made some of the stuff you guys are using".

Now really guys, this thread got hijacked off into personal rant land, I think unless a decent subject can be foraged for the topic creator, it would be best to let this one fall off the front page.
 
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