Good stages for olimar?

[alexthepony]

Could someone please tell me good stages for olimar and why? and also bad stages for him and why? and maybe discuss what is good for certain characters, thanks

 

[Angbad]

Okay I'm trying to kill some time here, so:

(A lot of this comes down to personal preference, but I'll try to share my reasonings.)

Let's assume a 5 stage strike list of FD, SV, T&C, BF, and Dreamland.

Game 1's:


Personally I think ending up on Battlefield game one is ideal in this match up. On battlefield, she has an insanely difficult time killing, and doesn't have any easy way to kill you near the blast zones like she does on Smashville and Town and City occasionally. The platforms on Battlefield also help you land while also helping to nullify needle camping.

Final Destination is decent, but if you're playing against a needle-happy sheik it's hard to deal with.

I'd avoid smashville and dreamland at all costs simply because of her ability to get early kills on both stages which helps her cover her big killing weakness.

so basically tier list of stages for game 1 for me would be

1. BF
2. FD
3. T&C
4. Dreamland
5. Smashville

Counterpicking a sheik, i'd probably just want to end up on BF or Lylat. Lylat helps our projectiles while hurts hers.



Alright I'll edit this post later and go through reasoning on other characters, but i'll do tier lists for the high tiers

1. FD
2. Smashville
3. BF
4. T&C
5. Dreamland



1. FD
2. Smashville
3. T&C
4. BF
5. Dreamland



1. BF
2. FD
3. SV
4. T&C
5. Dreamland



1. BF
2. FD
3. SV
4. T&C
5. Dreamland



1. FD
2. SV
3. T&C
4. BF
5. Dreamland



1. FD
2. T&C
3. SV
4. BF
5. Dreamland

Counterpick to lylat/dh



Hmm...

1. BF
2. FD
3. T&C
4. Smashville
5. Dreamland



no idea.



1. FD
2. BF
3. Dreamland
4. T&C
5. SV



**** this character

1. FD
2. T&C
3. SV
4. BF
5. Dreamland



1. FD
2. SV
3. T&C
4. BF
5. Dreamland

 

[alexthepony]

Okay I'm trying to kill some time here, so:

(A lot of this comes down to personal preference, but I'll try to share my reasonings.)

Let's assume a 5 stage strike list of FD, SV, T&C, BF, and Dreamland.

Game 1's:


Personally I think ending up on Battlefield game one is ideal in this match up. On battlefield, she has an insanely difficult time killing, and doesn't have any easy way to kill you near the blast zones like she does on Smashville and Town and City occasionally. The platforms on Battlefield also help you land while also helping to nullify needle camping.

Final Destination is decent, but if you're playing against a needle-happy sheik it's hard to deal with.

I'd avoid smashville and dreamland at all costs simply because of her ability to get early kills on both stages which helps her cover her big killing weakness.

so basically tier list of stages for game 1 for me would be

1. BF
2. FD
3. T&C
4. Dreamland
5. Smashville

Counterpicking a sheik, i'd probably just want to end up on BF or Lylat. Lylat helps our projectiles while hurts hers.



Alright I'll edit this post later and go through reasoning on other characters, but i'll do tier lists for the high tiers

1. FD
2. Smashville
3. BF
4. T&C
5. Dreamland



1. FD
2. Smashville
3. T&C
4. BF
5. Dreamland



1. BF
2. FD
3. SV
4. T&C
5. Dreamland



1. BF
2. FD
3. SV
4. T&C
5. Dreamland



1. FD
2. SV
3. T&C
4. BF
5. Dreamland



1. FD
2. T&C
3. SV
4. BF
5. Dreamland

Counterpick to lylat/dh



Hmm...

1. BF
2. FD
3. T&C
4. Smashville
5. Dreamland



no idea.



1. FD
2. SV
3. T&C
4. BF
5. Dreamland



**** this character

1. FD
2. T&C
3. SV
4. BF
5. Dreamland



1. FD
2. SV
3. T&C
4. BF
5. Dreamland

tks for the help, also yeah if you can put the reason that would help

 

[Angbad]

Does anyone think it's worth finishing

 

[alexthepony]

Does anyone think it's worth finishing

You have already done such an amazing job doing this to be nice to me, so you can just stop and I will be happy, but if you want to your welcome to add reasons on why, and that would be apperciated

 

[-The Gucci Fairy-]

Okay I'm trying to kill some time here, so:

(A lot of this comes down to personal preference, but I'll try to share my reasonings.)

Let's assume a 5 stage strike list of FD, SV, T&C, BF, and Dreamland.

Game 1's:


Personally I think ending up on Battlefield game one is ideal in this match up. On battlefield, she has an insanely difficult time killing, and doesn't have any easy way to kill you near the blast zones like she does on Smashville and Town and City occasionally. The platforms on Battlefield also help you land while also helping to nullify needle camping.

Final Destination is decent, but if you're playing against a needle-happy sheik it's hard to deal with.

I'd avoid smashville and dreamland at all costs simply because of her ability to get early kills on both stages which helps her cover her big killing weakness.

so basically tier list of stages for game 1 for me would be

1. BF
2. FD
3. T&C
4. Dreamland
5. Smashville

Counterpicking a sheik, i'd probably just want to end up on BF or Lylat. Lylat helps our projectiles while hurts hers.



Alright I'll edit this post later and go through reasoning on other characters, but i'll do tier lists for the high tiers

1. FD
2. Smashville
3. BF
4. T&C
5. Dreamland



1. FD
2. Smashville
3. T&C
4. BF
5. Dreamland



1. BF
2. FD
3. SV
4. T&C
5. Dreamland



1. BF
2. FD
3. SV
4. T&C
5. Dreamland



1. FD
2. SV
3. T&C
4. BF
5. Dreamland



1. FD
2. T&C
3. SV
4. BF
5. Dreamland

Counterpick to lylat/dh



Hmm...

1. BF
2. FD
3. T&C
4. Smashville
5. Dreamland



no idea.



1. FD
2. SV
3. T&C
4. BF
5. Dreamland



**** this character

1. FD
2. T&C
3. SV
4. BF
5. Dreamland



1. FD
2. SV
3. T&C
4. BF
5. Dreamland

Duck hunt vs yoshi works well for me

 

[-The Gucci Fairy-]

Does anyone think it's worth finishing

Just do it. I think skypirate started a thread like this way before but its never been updated so bringing this back up again, im pretty sure would be benefical to all olimars in geenral.

 

[Angbad]

Just do it. I think skypirate started a thread like this way before but its never been updated so bringing this back up again, im pretty sure would be benefical to all olimars in geenral.

Alright I will.

 

[Angbad]

Duck hunt vs yoshi works well for me

Yeah same with me. I was just doing neutrals in the post though.

 

[-The Gucci Fairy-]

Alright I will.

Oh ok just making sure

 

[StripedNinja]

I always feel comfortable on FD personally. It's the easiest stage I feel to regain stage control and hold it for Olimar. Doesn't ask a lot of you.
For counterpicking I find it fun to go to Lylat because everyone hates it, but since Olimar's projectile travels in an arc and since his F-Smash moves along the shape of the slanted ground I think he does really well here. Also his good recovery makes so the ledge tilty thing really isn't a threat to him but will sometimes make your opponent feel more tentative about edgegaurding you.

 

[alexthepony]

Alright I will.

when do you think it will be done?

 

[Planty]

Against Rosalina, don't bring her to T&C. The low upper blastzones allow for early Uair/U-smash kills.

BF/Dreamland is actually a decent counterpick. The reason Rosalina does well there is because if she camps under a platform covers so many aggressive options, but Olimar forces approaches so that's nullified. You also get platforms for landing.

FD is a great Olimar stage, as usual (and also probably Rosalina's worst stage). Just remember that landing will be very tough against her.