Grab Release to Spike Against Thirteen Characters (Including MetaKnight AND Snake!)

[Mmac]

I don't quite understand how I was wrong then. If his running speed is faster, than if you are alittle farter from the edge than ontop of it, you'd make it at relitivly the same time seeing as how you have to fast fall when you are farther away. =_=

You don't fast fall.

 

[Gindler]

d*mn yoshi annoying

Ha, I like how more and more people say that.

 

[PRiDE]

The reason why it is easier to do it if you are a little ways away from the edge is because MK is closer to the edge when he is released... Meaning Yoshi has to run to get off the stage as opposed to just falling off. Running + MK being closer to the stage easier spike. My problem is I can't space Yoshi's grab correctly because sometimes he slides and sometimes he doesnt... >_<

 

[Mmac]

>_< I forgot another thing!

If you don't want to risk the spike if you're on the edge against MetaKnight, you can just drop down and do a Rising Nair strike. It also works 100% but it varies depending on the time you use the Nair, and the timing of the Double Jump.

It can kill at around 85% with a Fresh Sweetspot Nair on FD

 

[bigman40]

lolz. IS teh metaknightz getting mad that they might now have another even, or *gasp!* a disadvantage?!?!? O_O

 

[SOVAman]

d*mn yoshi annoying

D*MN MK IS ANNOYING lol

 

[kackamee]

You don't fast fall.

I fast fall and it works just as well

 

[Mmac]

Update!

Link can also be Fair'ed! Front page for info.

 

[SOVAman]

yay (not like anyone uses link >_<)

 

[Blistering Speed]

My Ganondorf maining friend now HAS to change character if he wants to stand a chance!
9-1 matchups FTW

 

[YoshiBomb]

I was able to do it on a Falco 2 times in one match but he probly jumped into it or something idk I may do some testing of my own today to see for myself

 

[SOVAman]

I was able to do it on a Falco 2 times in one match but he probly jumped into it or something idk I may do some testing of my own today to see for myself

I think you can do it on Falco its just not guaranteed.

 

[shurf]

Wow, I just tested this. It works great! Timing isn't too hard to get down for most characters. This is excellent stuff. Very practical in matches.

 

[Mmac]

I was able to do it on a Falco 2 times in one match but he probly jumped into it or something idk I may do some testing of my own today to see for myself

You can't do it on Falco. He recovers too quickly, his attacks have too much priority over your Fair, and he can airdodge without worry (Usually).

It might work with an Nair though

 

[Gindler]

I noticed Ganon could fight back but he'd die...can he use his UpB? I think that'd save him.

I just wanna be sure so I don't get embarrassed when I attempt it.

 

[darkspatan117]

Does it work for real?

 

[Yinlong]

Does it work for real?

yes, i spiked a metaknight this morning

 

[Mmac]

I noticed Ganon could fight back but he'd die...can he use his UpB? I think that'd save him.

I just wanna be sure so I don't get embarrassed when I attempt it.

Hmm... I'll test, but I think a UpB from that distance will kill him anyways if missed

And here's a vid of more anti-MetaKnight goodness http://files.filefront.com/YshMKFairwmv/;11567549;/fileinfo.html

 

[Mmac]

Update: I tested Ganondorf, and he can't UpB you. His initial frames have too much startup, and you can easily spike him

 

[SOVAman]

You can't do it on Falco. He recovers too quickly, his attacks have too much priority over your Fair, and he can airdodge without worry (Usually).

It might work with an Nair though

I think its easier to do it on falco then wolf and fox. Maybe its just me but it is easy to do it on falco.

 

[DKKountry]

This move looks pretty sessy when it's done right. I like.

 

[Mmac]

I think its easier to do it on falco then wolf and fox. Maybe its just me but it is easy to do it on falco.

Well Falco is easy if he doesn't see it coming. It's kinda like the chaingrab, if he doesn't know he can escape it, then he can't

 

[Kiwikomix]

Are you sure the Squirtle one can be done on any stage? Cuz if it can, that's pretty bad***.

 

[Mmac]

Are you sure the Squirtle one can be done on any stage? Cuz if it can, that's pretty bad***.

Yep. He isn't stopped by any platform when being Chaingrabbed, because he releases so low

 

[Mmac]

Bad News, Link doesn't Work ;_ ;

Though I'm testing out a few characters that might beable to...

 

[Shiri]

Wow, I think Link was put in this game specifically to counter Yoshi.

 

[ChronoPenguin]

try doing the spike after an egg lay and see if they can escape that....probably yes but there may be 1 character or something that is screwed out of an egg lay.

 

[Scala]

Wow, I think Link was put in this game specifically to counter Yoshi.

Thank god finding a link main is about as rare as finding a yoshi main

 

[SOVAman]

Thank god finding a link main is about as rare as finding a yoshi main

Not really recently there are a lot more Yoshi's then I thought but there are still almost NO link mains lol.

 

[Sharky]

I feel bad for ganondorfs. I was fighting one online today and was able to pull this off quite a few times. I ended up pitying him and not chaingrabbing after a while, made the fights much more interesting. =)

 

[Mmac]

Meh, blame Sakurai

I added Diddy and Falco to the Effective list.

 

[rel_12]

Thanks =) I always love doing this, but I didn't know about the sheik one =), also if you chain grab link or Bowser during there mid jump while near the edge, they can not recover anymore, they just stand still in the air. =) I don't know if its a glitch or not, and link just has poor recovery, you can even do the spike on him too.

 

[Mmac]

Updated again, Falco has been proved inescapeable, and added Bowser and Lucas to the effective list

I'm also testing out Snake and Dedede too, as they might beable to also

 

[Gindler]

I had a feeling link wouldn't be affected by it. I can just see a bomb exploding right when you're about to spike and he'll turn the table by footstooling or something equally useless. But yeah good thing there's only like 1 Link main in each state.

 

[pidgey14]

I had a feeling link wouldn't be affected by it. I can just see a bomb exploding right when you're about to spike and he'll turn the table by footstooling or something equally useless. But yeah good thing there's only like 1 Link main in each state.

heh I have only heard of one link main on NH (oh how I miss the old BC) so far (and beaten it with Yoshi)

 

[Naucitos]

I apparently suck and misjudge the release when trying to jump after it and screw myself over, go me
also, Yoshi mains seem to be on the rise dunno if thats awesome or bad XD

 

[Mmac]

Snake is added to the List! Details are on the Front page.

Ike is also added, if you care <_<

 

[Sharky]

crappers nice update Mmac! Gives me some more work to do with the guide but this is something I'll be happy to update =D

 

[MrEh]

Yoshi keeps becoming more and more of a beast each day. O_O

I wish the same could be said about Bowser though. Anyway, excellent find Mmac.

 

[SOVAman]

lol bowser

I tried to use bowser before it didn't work out to great.