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Grabbing with a bomb (Don't get too exited yet)
- Thread starter demonictoonlink
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SuSa
Banned via Administration
Modded controllers are illegal in any tourney that means anything.
The fact you can modify your controls =/= modify your controller
I would assume it was taken as "His controller is modded to make x easier" rather then "he changed R to specials to do it easier"
I also don't think he's trolling, but he may have done it for the lulz.
It better get recorded next time it happens, and I want a quality recording showing the before, during, and after.
TLMSheikant
Smash Master
Replies in quote :O.Modded controllers are illegal in any tourney that means anything.
The fact you can modify your controls =/= modify your controller
I would assume it was taken as "His controller is modded to make x easier" rather then "he changed R to specials to do it easier"
Oh, I see...lulz my bad. Modded controllers o_O phail.
I also don't think he's trolling, but he may have done it for the lulz.
It better get recorded next time it happens, and I want a quality recording showing the before, during, and after.
Vids or it didnt happen. After this thread Im not gonna pay attention to any "new discovery" threads if they dont have vids.
SuSa
Banned via Administration
Also, you can tell he wasn't trying to troll at all by the title.
He warned us to not get to happy about it.
He warned us to not get to happy about it.
Ken Neth
Smash Champion
I was able to z-air while holding a bomb. I have no idea what I did, but I have the replay if someone wants it. Maybe it could help, but it might be completely worthless. I only started using him like two days ago, so I have no idea if this even closely relates to what you guys are trying to find. Don't flame me if I appear like a total noob LOL.
Ken Neth
Smash Champion
Wow, I feel like a complete noob right now. But that's good to know.
But that's good to know.
Disfunkshunal
Manners Maketh Man
i cant believe everyone is giving up already. We may be on the verge of something that will greatly help toonlink, but people are stopping. While trying to find out out if this is legit, we are merely repeating test. What someone tries, others will also try because they dont know its been tested, so people are giving up before really tring new ways. I know and understand that this may indeed be a glitch/ may not have really happened. However we will not know the anwser to this question at hand if we ccontinue on the path we are now. Since no two people are alike, someone may think of a new way to go about this, but that will only happen if they dont tire first drom doing already been done test. I recommend that DTL make a list of every way we tried. that way all of the previous test are noted and will keep you from wasting time redoing a test unless its of your own free will. This will also make this whole thread more organized. Before you completely lose hope really consider what i have said. If you really want to this technique to become a reality you have to be willing to do the work.
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
Wow... You suck...
Yes, this did happen. No, I have not been able to recreate it, but I have been spending at least an hour every day attempting it. I have no proof. The closest thing I have is my friend who saw it happen, and he only lurks smashboards.
I just posted this trying to see if maybe we could figure out what happened. Accuse me of trolling again and you will enter a battle you can not win.
/threat+ offering of oppurtunity to apologize
Edit: Also, I appreciate all of your posts, but I agree with letting this die until you have an idea of have made a breakthrough
2nd Edit: Just read Toondiddy's above post. I like the list idea. If everyone would be willing to explain their proccess, I will put it in the OP
Edit:^This part was at everyone
TLMSheikant
Smash Master
Well, maybe ur not trolling. But a lot of people have tried to crack this and havent been able to do so. Perhaps u saw like u grabbed him with the bomb but u dropped the bomb or something on the ground and thought u had it in ur hands...it is a possibility, that;s why I said in my post that ur mind couldve deceived u. I wasnt trying to offend, insult u or anything with that commentary saying that ur crazy or something. So sorry for that.
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
I didn't think you were calling me crazy. I just got offended by accusations of trolling.
Apology accepted <3
Apology accepted <3
A list of everything that has been tried and failed would make all the difference to this thread. I can't remember everything I tested, but I'll start the list with what I can remember off the top of my head. Then DTL can add it to the OP and everyone else can chip in.
Things I tried (off the top of my head and in no particular order, I'll come back later with a longer list)
Canceling the zair into a grab
Dash canceling into a grab (picking up the bomb with the dash)
Dash canceling into an Usmash then grab
Pulling out a bomb instantly holding grab and trying to grab with A and the C-stick
Pulling out a bomb instantly holding A and trying to grab
Trying to sheild grab with A and C-stick
It's not much but it's a start, I also didn't want to add anything I'm not sure i did, just incase I didn't test it.
Things I tried (off the top of my head and in no particular order, I'll come back later with a longer list)
Canceling the zair into a grab
Dash canceling into a grab (picking up the bomb with the dash)
Dash canceling into an Usmash then grab
Pulling out a bomb instantly holding grab and trying to grab with A and the C-stick
Pulling out a bomb instantly holding A and trying to grab
Trying to sheild grab with A and C-stick
It's not much but it's a start, I also didn't want to add anything I'm not sure i did, just incase I didn't test it.
FrozenFire13
Smash Ace
Omg I did it guys! I tested for like 5 hours straight and finally did it! But I forgot to record it...
SuSa
Banned via Administration
Obvious troll is obvious.
Disfunkshunal
Manners Maketh Man
what i've tried:
grab next to a bomb on the floor
running grab next to a bomb on the floor
sidestep then grab with bomb in hand (like airdodge zair)
grab immeadiatly after an auto cancelled zair
throwing a bomb up and catching it with grab
grab next to a bomb on the floor
running grab next to a bomb on the floor
sidestep then grab with bomb in hand (like airdodge zair)
grab immeadiatly after an auto cancelled zair
throwing a bomb up and catching it with grab
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
**** you, FF...
I'll upload a vid of the best I got so far. It's nothing special, but it's kinda cool.
SH BP BD GR US
Short hop-Bomb pull-Bomb drop-Grab release-Up smash
It's borderline impossible, but, if done correctly, kills Metaknight if you grab him at about 110...
I'll upload a vid of the best I got so far. It's nothing special, but it's kinda cool.
SH BP BD GR US
Short hop-Bomb pull-Bomb drop-Grab release-Up smash
It's borderline impossible, but, if done correctly, kills Metaknight if you grab him at about 110...
Santi
Smash Lord
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Chip.
you know what to do
Try to not spam anymore guys =)
Hyro
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Lolwut. That means if you get a bomb next to you and grab release an MK he's dead no matter if he jump breaks or...ground breaks. Right?
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
It's a different kind of break. The bomb blows up and you both take damage. It's kinda like a jump break, I think. I believe it is more so the knockback of the bomb than a break though.
Also, I was facing right. I have no idea why that would matter...
Santi
Smash Lord
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Well you could of (not saying you did) bomb dropped with Z when you tried to zair. And if you airdodged later after you pushed Z and then pushed A (cause you wanted to throw the bomb when you landed) you would of grabbed the bomb with air dodge and when you pushed A... if you were not on the ground yet, you would od I dropped the bomb on the ground and then you could of grabbed and it might of looked like you were grabbing while holding a bomb.
SOrry if thats confusing.
SOrry if thats confusing.
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
Yeah, that was already discussed. Thanks though for the help
DTL, Let me just set the 'bomb break' straight. After talking to Havokk about it earlier in this thread, I've come to completely understand how this works. Just incase anyone else doesn't know, I'll tell you. If you get a bomb to explode on both you and the person you are holding, the person with the highest player port will recieve damage but no knock back. Example, you are player 3 and a meta knight is player 2, If you do the 'bomb break' you will get a free shot. But if you are player 2 and your opponent is player 3 then he will get the free shot. Do you get it? So if you want this to work, then you've got to choose a higher player port.
What you are doing is testing this in training mode, against a Meta knight. In training mode you are always Player 1. Doing the Bomb break in traing mode is different to a normal brawl. If you do it in training mode, even though you have a lower player port (Player 1) The bomb break for some reason, will work on Player 2. This is not normal and will not work outside of training mode.
I hope you all understand now how the bomb break works.
hdrevolution123
Smash Ace
I think you may be on to something there. I'll test it out, in a hope that it might work as you predicted that it might.
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
Thanks, but I also did this outside of training mode. I put a controller in port one and mine in port 2. I set it to 3 minutes, went to FD, tried it, and recorded it. You NEVER take the knockback
Ken Neth
Smash Champion
By higher, he means number wise. So 4 is the highest followed by 3 then 2 then 1. So port 2 is higher than port 1. Try it again with it switched- you as p1 and the other controller as p2.
Thank you for specifying this. I didn't think I had to go into it that far. But if it makes it easier for you all, I will.
4 beats 3, 2 and 1
3 beats 2 and 1 but is beaten by 4
2 beats 1 but is beaten by 3 and 4
1 is lame.
Get it?
I didn't predict it, I know it. I've already checked it out but if you want then it can't hurt you testing it as well and backing up what I said.
Exactly. I already did this as well. I'm not surprised at what the out-come was.
The only difference to the whole 4 beats 3 and so on, is in training, which is different from a normal brawl because in training 1 beats 2 for some reason. Other than that everything stays the same and follows the same simple rule, Higher number beats lower number.
I hope this helps you understand how it works.
Rykoshet
Smash Champion
It's controller port 4 >_>
Ken Neth
Smash Champion
No, port 1 gives you grab priority. So if you and someone grab each other at the same time the person in the lower port will get the grab. So as VietGeek said "Controller Port 1 is good if you're a grab-happy character" because you will never get grabbed if you both grab each other at the same time.
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
Aight' Thanks guys for explaining that. I never really got the whole "Port Priority" thing, but now I do! (>^^)>
hdrevolution123
Smash Ace
Yeah me too. I never knew the controller port determined grab priority
Rykoshet
Smash Champion
if you say so.
Ashraf23
Smash Apprentice
Ill go try to figure out how you can grab with a bomb in your hand. ill be back if i find anything lol.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
isnt bombdrop + grab and pickup possible? dont have a wii atm but its tryable at least
oOJaseOo
Smash Ace
you guys know how to do it yet?
hdrevolution123
Smash Ace
Nope. Still researching I believe. We can't quite grab and hold a bomb yet but another discovery has been found within this thread
Ashraf23
Smash Apprentice
When i was trying to figure out how you did this i tried to air dodge then Zair as soon as I hit the ground. Yes lol, I failed. At one point I was thinking maybe you were having a TL ditto and you grabbed your friend and didnt notice he had a bomb in his hand and it exploded while you were holding him. But that theory failed as soon as I figuered out you were playing an Mk.
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