I'm pretty sure he talking about the lift you recive from the shine, and hes right. Sometimes you can rise out of the nado with a shine, but only if your near the very top of the nado with higher % (60- 100s) Your not trying to hit mk with the shine, just use the rise as an escape. On the occasion that it works, you can usally slam mk with a dair combo if his player is too stupid to move away after you recover, or you get out torwards the end of the attack. Sorry bro, I already knew this, but I guess nobody else did. Make no mistake though, its very cercumstantial, and comes about mainly from crappy nado placement on mks part. Its no where near an everytime thing, but what do you got better to do while getting eatin up by a nado?