Help with Campers

[Ghost07]

-------------------Having trouble with campers, read the following-----------------

First off Wolf is a great characer and easy to pick up(most cahracters in Brawl are). At first he will feel like a God when you own you're friends but when they start to understand his weakness wolf becomes very hard too play and you might start losing (alot.)

Wolfs attacks are very laggy and alot of times keeps him from doing combos. Fighting campy players with wolf is like fighting taboo with one character.(hard) Characters like Lucas, Zelda, Metaknight, Young Link, and Marth can easily punish wolf. Blaster shots and grabs will help you win the match way more than his f smash. Don't get me wrong his f smash is amazing but can be easily punished if you miss or abuse.

nair to grab is great

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random stuff

If you're opponent is rushing you the melee attack on wolf blaster has great priority

The fast attacks on Wolf's grabs are cool but the thing is it only does 1%. I suggest that you grab attack them twice then d throw. 12% alot better than (3-5% if the get out).
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Don't Dair! It may looks awesome but with multiple airdoges and how easy it is for other characters to get back too the stage it sucks! It leaves him open too get screwd due to his okayish recovery. His bair is the way too go! Wolf's bair is one of his best moves and must be used too the fullest. His bair is excellent against shield grabbers and spammers. At low percents follow up with another attack to rack up damage. If they dodge your bair in the air stay on them and fair them.

bair to shine to f smash or bair to f smash are good at low %s

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How to fight Lucas

Play smart Lucas is much stronger than wolf.

Dont blaster spam!
Lucas's pk fire will own you and if that wont make you stop surely his absorb will. Lucas gets back about 10-15% energy from each shot!

A good Lucas player will sh dair on wolf and follow up with an attack__over 30%! and priority is crazy__ Not many options for wolf if this happens but you can stop him before he dairs you with a sh laser. If the combo has started try a shine to stop it(doesn't always work).

You have too play tricky when fighting lucas. Approach him like your a mad man to get him too clam up. I recommend jumping over him and using back airs or fake him out and grab him.

Lucas's priority is a beast so be careful when you try to combo.

If lucas knocks you off of the stage getting back on can be a gamble. His d smash and f smash can edgeguard you like crazy. Sometimes lucas players will send out a pk thunder to piss you off, don't be stupid shine it! His pk thunder is not like ness, it will combo you to death. Using side b tricks like scarring will help you out alot if you need to get back on the stage, but this techinque doesn't work on alot of stages.

Watch out for lucas up smash(21%)! Don't get cocky thinking you wont get hit because the range on this move is crazy. If you see him charging up and you're close to him shine, grab, shoot, jab, or get out of the way. Shield only if you're out of time. This move kills wolf around 80% so be careful.

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How to fight Zelda

First off this is not melee Zelda. She will kick your a** if you fight her the same way you use too.

Don't blaster camp too much!
Zelda's Din fire is amazing this time around. Faster, has invisible range, and very powerful. Also Zelda can return your shots so space yourself.

Watch out for her improved up smash( kills wolf around 120%)! The priority on this move is unreal. Unlike in melee this attack pulls you end so you can't escape it(same for her f smash).

This is a tricky fight cause Zelda is alot stronger than Wolf. Blaster her after your combos and grabs too rack up damage. Spam the blaster as long as you keep moving and tagging her with you're combos and shines.

Wolf is faster than Zelda so that too your avantage.

------more to come----- Hope this helps, suggestions are welcome

 

[Deforty]

Ok, great. I was playing Simnas online today (My Wolf vs. His Lucas) and we went close to about 25 matches. It took me a while to get it down but alternating between blaster and f smash/ run grab was the safest route to go. It kept him from constantly getting his approaches in to pwn me (With his priority and all). Anything else besides that is just outplaying him. At least that's what i got from the matches.

 

[Bocks]

shine zeldas fire balls, makes u temp invincible to them + has less lag time than her cast animation, do NOT roll around them, the range is huge

 

[Relhots]

A good Lucas player will sh dair on wolf and follow up with an attack__over 20%! and priority is crazy__ Not many options for wolf if this happens but you can stop him before he dairs you with a sh laser. If the combo has started try a shine to stop it(doesn't always work).

Or you could just roll...then either jump back or dair lucas... or maybe even roll back, then f-smash. If you quick enough, you could even jump over lucas, dair, then d-smash for the kill...

To get around his pk fire, just roll back or shield...Or you could probably even shield jump (SH) to a dair (since people are most likely to use his up smash...)

But im just going off my experiences with lucas, you probably play a better lucas than me.

 

[Whitefire]

there's really 2 types of campy characters, powerful smashers like ike and ranged fighters like toon link and both are easy to fight at a range.

smashers(mostly without a ranged attack): blast them hard, the blaster is too good and they will cave and start rolling at you or moving at you, that's when you hypen smash or fsmash to bush through their dash.

projectiles: easy, reflect what you can until they get angry and move at you, or leave an opening for you to rush them.

You should have no difficulty fighting someone who is waiting for you to approach, because you have no need to rush at them like marth would. Just play it safe until you are able to strike them without being punished for getting shielded. After smashing them you are suddenly on the offense and you get the opportunity to juggle or edgegaurd, and a slow character like Ike can do nothing to stop you.

Wolf is a mix of safe defense and converting it into a blazing offense, know your opponent and know when to strike, but characters that are waiting for you can easily stifle a head-on attack from wolf, so play your cards right and hit when you know you can make something out of it, wolf can keep himself safe at any distance and avoid lots of attacks.

 

[Valken]

An absolutely GREAT way to fight campers is with your blaster/shine.

When blasting it's important to always to a short hop back before you fire.
You do not stop animation when you land, so it's good to short hop and right befor you land shoot so that you fire on the ground but pull it out in the air. This is good to avoid attacks and fire back.

If your opponent is projectile happy then jump back, blast, and shine right after.

What you seem to be forgetting is that, even though Wolf is great for CQC (heh heh Snake) he can be one of those annoying campers. It's just not his strong point.

When fighting campers, camp in return. It will even out the fight, but when the time comes to kill, you will have the advantage.

Why?

Cuz your ****ING Wolf!

 

[kabloodysun]

blast them hard, the blaster is too good and they will cave and start rolling at you or moving at you.

QFT

It works everytime =P

 

[Ghost07]

Updated.

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How to fight Zelda

First off this is not melee Zelda. She will kick your a** if you fight her the same way you use too.

Don't blaster camp too much!
Zelda's Din fire is amazing this time around. Faster, has invisible range, and very powerful. Also Zelda can return your shots so space yourself.

Watch out for her improved up smash( kills wolf around 120%)! The priority on this move is unreal. Unlike in melee this attack pulls you end so you can't escape it(same for her f smash).

This is a tricky fight cause Zelda is alot stronger than Wolf. Blaster her after your combos and grabs too rack up damage. Spam the blaster as long as you keep moving and tagging her with you're combos and shines.

Wolf is faster than Zelda so that too your avantage.