Higher Controller Port

[DTKPch]

So I've picked up Bowser, and I think I'm pretty decent. I knew Bowser ATs in Melee like fortress-hogging, up-b oos, flame cancelling, etc.

Anyways, I've played some matches in SSBB as Bowser, and they've all been as controller port 1. I've yet to try a controller port higher than my opponents. How important do you all think a lower controller port is?

Clearly, it opens up options with Bowserciding on the last stock, and that's been a lot of my game. I'd say at least 75% of my matches end with me on my last stock, low damage versus an opponent on his last stock and higher damage, which lets me bowsercide easily due to more effective DI.

I guess controller port doesn't really affect it until that last stock, but isn't it still really important?

 

[Sosuke]

I don't think the controller has anything to do with it.

 

[Inferno_blaze]

I don't think the controller has anything to do with it.

Well then you're wrong. Bowserciding effectiveness IS controlled by controller ports. It's pretty useful to be player 1 but it's not like it's anything majorly game changing, just because you're in port 1 doesn't mean you're going to be playing better than them so it's not really a big deal. It'll always give you the sudden death opportunity anyways.

 

[Sosuke]

Well then you're wrong. Bowserciding effectiveness IS controlled by controller ports. It's pretty useful to be player 1 but it's not like it's anything majorly game changing, just because you're in port 1 doesn't mean you're going to be playing better than them so it's not really a big deal. It'll always give you the sudden death opportunity anyways.

So what, being player ones makes Bowsersides always kill the other guy first or something?

 

[S_B]

It's reasonably important because it changes the mechanics of the game otherwise.

If Bowser Bowsercides on his last stock (and the opponent's last stock), the enemy dies first, giving Bowser the win, but if Bowser is 2P or higher, it goes to sudden death for some reason.

Just more proof that Brawl is a buggy, unbalanced mess, I suppose.

 

[salaboB]

If Bowser Bowsercides on his last stock (and the opponent's last stock), the enemy dies first, giving Bowser the win, but if Bowser is 2P or higher, it goes to sudden death for some reason.

Just more proof that Brawl is a buggy, unbalanced mess, I suppose.

It makes perfect sense from a programming standpoint, but it's still terrible design.

 

[S_B]

I agree, and it's the same in Melee/64, I believe: if two players die at the same time, it considers the higher player the one who died first.

Something this obvious should've NEVER made it past beta testing, though.

 

[BlackYoshi7]

Yeah, it wouldn't make it past beta if the developers gave a **** about competitive play, but in their minds it barely exists. So they just didn't care about it because it's random and fun and they didn't think it would matter in the grand scheme of things.

 

[superman969]

yah, the developers don't care about competitive play at all, it isn't what makes them the money. Face it, they don't care about us, and that's why Brawl didn't meet most expectations

 

[HybridEntity]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8WZySNYqS4#qxoETuxOHCE

Can anyone explain how this bowser won with a bowsercide in port 2?

 

[Veggi]

Because that Mario's combos were too epic, and Bowser doesn't follow the rules.

 

[Airgemini]

This is a controller port guide.
Maybe it'll help.

 

[FaceFaceMcFace]

Perhaps in the Japanese version Bowser always wins, or the controller port priority is reversed?

 

[HybridEntity]

@airgemini - I read that guide and it said that the match should've resulted with a sudden death after the Klawcide. I'll post up a question in that guide as well.

 

[Ryazan]

Just to be safe, when I play as Bowser I only Bowsercide when I have more stocks.

 

[popsofctown]

It's a huge difference when you play the way I play.


Look at it this way: If we played a one stock game, it would be a humungous advantage. I could kill you at 0% with bowsercide.

In a three stock game it's not. So i focus on making it a one stock game. If we are both at 50% and i land a side B, i bowsercide. If my friend is at 90%, and I'm at 70%, I bowsercide. Even though he had more damage than me, I'm taking a loss just so i can get to that one stock game. And i do get to that one stock game (usually by bowserciding one stock, and earning another. Or by earning, bowserciding, then sucking and losing a stock and having it 1v1).

I really want controller port one. At tournaments, I'm gonna hope no one knows, and I'm gonna try to act like my IQ is 69 and say "But, Danny always lets me be player one. I want to be player one. Danny says i should be player one because i'm left handed". And say that while cross-eyed.