I CRUSHED m2k in our match at WORLD HOBO!!!!!!!!

[Xyro77]

yea not really

Xyro(samus) vs M2k(meta) 1&2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYXGRAZy-uQ

 

[LanceStern]

That seems like the same problem we ALL have with metaknight (samus in general). He gets in Samus' face and throws out his high priority aerial attacks there's not much we can do. But the first stock on movie one is very encouraging. We can definitely BEAT metaknight, it's just we have to do a heck of a lot of things extremely good to do so.

One thing I've noticed a lot with metaknights is they like to get above Samus alot. It's happened to me, a few others, and in your movie Xyro where they are easy targets for an OoS Up B.

EDIT: By the way, could you tell me how you are zairing right after the down B? Just mashing Z or what? Because I would like to add that to the "Tips and Tactics" Topic I made. It's good to know against Metaknights.

 

[MRS1]

Yeah boy! You da best

 

[Hive]

hey good job, xyro! ^^ mk is such a ridiculously one sided matchup lol but you did pretty good imo. (tornado sux )

 

[Throwback]

last stock of the vid was hilarious.

 

[Metatitan]

really nice job xyro

 

[Cherry64]

Gotta hand that one too you. it was actually a well fought round, commented on it on youtube also. But still pretty Rad dude Allan

 

[Orichalcum]

i would have expected nothing less of the great xyro, best samus in the universe

 

[Hive]

lol ^^ ---you guys are such suck ups!

 

[Ravin]

Suck more plox.

No seriously. Nice job.

 

[Cherry64]

Uhh heck no , the first match was just amazing, the second one wasn't as awesome but still pretty goo-

hey good job, xyro! ^^ mk is such a ridiculously one sided matchup lol but you did pretty good imo. (tornado sux )

wth? TOTALLY sucking up

 

[Tudor]

Getting better xyro, it's good to see you adopted a lot of moves from me ^^

 

[Xyro77]

Getting better xyro, it's good to see you adopted a lot of moves from me ^^

i did? which ones?

 

[Hive]

lol xyro's secret ambition to be like tudor?

 

[Sago]

lol i dont even play samus and im still the best samus in the universe

 

[Z1GMA]

Hell, I really hate Shuttle loop.

It's one thing if a character can't get gimed, cause then you can always spike them.
But when a character can't get frickin spiked, it's just frustrating.
F*ck those **** invincibility frames on Shuttle loop >=(

 

[Cherry64]

spike them when they are at the top of their shuttle loop.Wait for them to shuttle loop first
not that a pro would do that. but yeah.

OH yeah Xyro, was taht part of the tourniment? or were those friendlies?

 

[Tudor]

i did? which ones?

lol, you're kidding right? Not that I care, actually I don't care.


But if i did care I would probably say these are some moves i haven't seen in your videos before;
- running off platforms to homing missiles (and following it up with something like dtilt)
- using homing missiles to approach
- grabbing when homing missiles hit lag shields
- DI down after getting thrown and zair
- short hop airdodge zairing
- instant grab ledge when hit horizontaly with zair
- fox trotting
- airdodging onto stages
- getting on the stage with dair
- going to the edge when your opponent has invincibility frames
- jab to dtilt
- zairing after arials (since you need a split second of airdodge)
- etc

Although I don't;
- air dodge as much
- use plasma ball randomly
- use zair so much for recovery


Of course maybe I just missed it in your old videos, or maybe you are learning these things on your own.

But like I said, it's good to see you getting better and using these moves instead of zairing and charging plasma's (your signature moves).

There's nothing wrong with taking other people's moves, i took a lot of Samus moves from others in melee. I even use your "uair to dsmash" move that I saw in your vid one time although I usually prefer my uair to upb over it.

 

[Xyro77]

lol, you're kidding right? Not that I care, actually I don't care.


But if i did care I would probably say these are some moves i haven't seen in your videos before;
- running off platforms to homing missiles (and following it up with something like dtilt)
- using homing missiles to approach
- grabbing when homing missiles hit lag shields
- DI down after getting thrown and zair
- short hop airdodge zairing
- instant grab ledge when hit horizontaly with zair
- fox trotting
- airdodging onto stages
- getting on the stage with dair
- going to the edge when your opponent has invincibility frames
- jab to dtilt
- zairing after arials (since you need a split second of airdodge)
- etc

Although I don't;
- air dodge as much
- use plasma ball randomly
- use zair so much for recovery


Of course maybe I just missed it in your old videos, or maybe you are learning these things on your own.

But like I said, it's good to see you getting better and using these moves instead of zairing and charging plasma's (your signature moves).

There's nothing wrong with taking other people's moves, i took a lot of Samus moves from others in melee. I even use your "uair to dsmash" move that I saw in your vid one time although I usually prefer my uair to upb over it.

OMG you used one of my moves? Im honored(dead serious). Thanks for the post Tudor. I guess i did use your stuff. i need to watch your old vids and see if u did some of that stuff first. wether you did or didnt. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Tudor]

Doesn't matter if I did or didn't (but check it out if you want, i really hope you or other samus's improve on them, which is why I posted the vids in the first place). Like i said, i like the way you're playing (it's improved fo sho). Keep up the good work ^^

Thanks for the post too, i dunno if it took a lot or not for you to write that but be sure that I appreciate it.

 

[Xyro77]

Doesn't matter if I did or didn't (but check it out if you want, i really hope you or other samus's improve on them, which is why I posted the vids in the first place). Like i said, i like the way you're playing (it's improved fo sho). Keep up the good work ^^

Thanks for the post too, i dunno if it took a lot or not for you to write that but be sure that I appreciate it.

i kinda look up to you(to be honest). so writing something like that wasnt hard. man i wanna play you

 

[Crystanium]

i kinda look up to you(to be honest). so writing something like that wasnt hard. man i wanna play you

I look up to both of you. You guys play mean Samus'! I want to be like you guys, if not better!

Oh, and congratulations on being a Smash Elitist, Xyro! Should you now be the Purple Lesbian, and I the Red Lesbian?

 

[Xyro77]

I look up to both of you. You guys play mean Samus'! I want to be like you guys, if not better!

Oh, and congratulations on being a Smash Elitist, Xyro!

Thank you! They let me because "xyro runs one of the most POPULAR/successful series in smash history"

 

[Uffe]

That looked hilarious at what happened at the end. It didn't even look like you were trying. There's something I noticed whenever you got back on the stage, though and that was using fair. You did it a few times and m2k would just block it. Not that you really need any advice from me, but make sure where your opponent is and what he does before acting upon it. If he's near the stage, chances are he'll block. If he's a few steps away from the stage, chances are he'll want you to roll towards him.

Yeah, I know, you don't need advice from some n00b.

 

[Xyro77]

That looked hilarious at what happened at the end. It didn't even look like you were trying. There's something I noticed whenever you got back on the stage, though and that was using fair. You did it a few times and m2k would just block it. Not that you really need any advice from me, but make sure where your opponent is and what he does before acting upon it. If he's near the stage, chances are he'll block. If he's a few steps away from the stage, chances are he'll want you to roll towards him.

Yeah, I know, you don't need advice from some n00b.

in a normal fight i would take your advice. but in this case it was m2k and i was hope-in to weaken his shield so i could pull off other attacks

 

[Xiahou Dun]

Word up. Tudor invented Airdodges, Zair, Foxtrotting, Jab cancelling and Grabbing people who shield. Also not hitting people who are invincible. No copying these sacred techniques without thanking him first people.

 

[Xyro77]

Word up. Tudor invented Airdodges, Zair, Foxtrotting, Jab cancelling and Grabbing people who shield. Also not hitting people who are invincible. No copying these sacred techniques without thanking him first people.

i hope you are joking.

 

[Xiahou Dun]

i hope you are joking.

That you feel you had to mention it insults me...

 

[Tudor]

lol xiahou dun is right, i always want recognition and I only posted because i did invent all those things and I need thanking if you want or are even thinking about using any of those moves. I DIDN'T say; xyro is getting much better and we both seem to be using a lot of the same moves. I'm glad we have people like you that contribute when they decide to put their fingers on a keyboard =P

Well all those moves in my opinion are essential to a skilled Samus. There are still a lot more that we can work on and improve as well though.

Dude xyro, if we had more constructive criticism and helpful tips while taking the time to listen to each other we could probably help the Samus boards a lot. However when I post I feel like I'm offending people when I don't mean to (like this xiahou fellow), so I try not to post.

 

[Crystanium]

lol xiahou dun is right, i always want recognition and I only posted because i did invent all those things and I need thanking if you want or are even thinking about using any of those moves. I DIDN'T say; xyro is getting much better and we both seem to be using a lot of the same moves. I'm glad we have people like you that contribute when they decide to put their fingers on a keyboard =P

Well all those moves in my opinion are essential to a skilled Samus. There are still a lot more that we can work on and improve as well though.

Dude xyro, if we had more constructive criticism and helpful tips while taking the time to listen to each other we could probably help the Samus boards a lot. However when I post I feel like I'm offending people when I don't mean to (like this xiahou fellow), so I try not to post.

I wish you would post more, Tudor. I don't see you or Rohins around much anymore, and when I do see your guys' names, I always want to see what you guys wrote.

 

[Tudor]

Haha the sad part is I read everything you guys write I just stay in the shadows... I told you why lol =P

 

[-Crews-]

lol, you're kidding right? Not that I care, actually I don't care.


But if i did care I would probably say these are some moves i haven't seen in your videos before;
- running off platforms to homing missiles (and following it up with something like dtilt)
- using homing missiles to approach
- grabbing when homing missiles hit lag shields
- DI down after getting thrown and zair
- short hop airdodge zairing
- instant grab ledge when hit horizontaly with zair
- fox trotting
- airdodging onto stages
- getting on the stage with dair
- going to the edge when your opponent has invincibility frames
- jab to dtilt
- zairing after arials (since you need a split second of airdodge)
- etc

Although I don't;
- air dodge as much
- use plasma ball randomly
- use zair so much for recovery


Of course maybe I just missed it in your old videos, or maybe you are learning these things on your own.

But like I said, it's good to see you getting better and using these moves instead of zairing and charging plasma's (your signature moves).

There's nothing wrong with taking other people's moves, i took a lot of Samus moves from others in melee. I even use your "uair to dsmash" move that I saw in your vid one time although I usually prefer my uair to upb over it.

some of the things seem like kind of a stretch. im mean come on, do you seriously think you "invented" things like approaching with homing missiles, shorthop airdodge zairing, airdodging on the stage, getting on the stage with dair, going to the edge when opponent is invincible etc? half of these things were used in melee (approaching with homing missiles, airdodging onto stage, getting on the stage with dair, and going to edge when opponent is invincible). but on another note, maybe everyone did copy your style after you put vids up. all im saying is that i was doing those things when i was just a noob samus starting out.

 

[Gigas_Deth]

I've never beaten an MK with my Samus...however, i've only fought them over wifi.

 

[Tudor]

goddamit, i'm never posting again. I wrote about how it seemed to me xyro changed his play style by adding that long list of things. I ****ing wrote "But if i did care I would probably say these are some moves i haven't seen in your videos before;"

sigh, like i said this is why I don't post.

nobody ever invented any of those moves, it just a matter of who uses them, **** my life.

 

[Crystanium]

some of the things seem like kind of a stretch. im mean come on, do you seriously think you "invented" things like approaching with homing missiles, shorthop airdodge zairing, airdodging on the stage, getting on the stage with dair, going to the edge when opponent is invincible etc? half of these things were used in melee (approaching with homing missiles, airdodging onto stage, getting on the stage with dair, and going to edge when opponent is invincible). but on another note, maybe everyone did copy your style after you put vids up. all im saying is that i was doing those things when i was just a noob samus starting out.

Um, Tudor said that Xyro adopted a lot of moves that he uses that he did not see Xyro use. Tudor even said that he "took a lot of Samus moves from others in Melee," which means he did not ever claim to have invented them in the first place, just that he didn't see Xyro do these in his matches.

 

[Cherry64]

goddamit, i'm never posting again. I wrote about how it seemed to me xyro changed his play style by adding that long list of things. I ****ing wrote "But if i did care I would probably say these are some moves i haven't seen in your videos before;"

sigh, like i said this is why I don't post.

nobody ever invented any of those moves, it just a matter of who uses them, **** my life.

we all <3 you please keep posting, your one of the best, if not the best samus, you know where and when to use moves and that is half the battle, the more you post the more we learn.

 

[LanceStern]

goddamit, i'm never posting again. I wrote about how it seemed to me xyro changed his play style by adding that long list of things. I ****ing wrote "But if i did care I would probably say these are some moves i haven't seen in your videos before;"

sigh, like i said this is why I don't post.

nobody ever invented any of those moves, it just a matter of who uses them, **** my life.

You're taking things a little too seriously I think.
I hope your life isn't so bad that you'd curse it because of a small misunderstanding with a stranger on a message board.

I think everything has been settled, keep posting. Have fun.

 

[-Crews-]

Um, Tudor said that Xyro adopted a lot of moves that he uses that he did not see Xyro use. Tudor even said that he "took a lot of Samus moves from others in Melee," which means he did not ever claim to have invented them in the first place, just that he didn't see Xyro do these in his matches.

which is why i put quotation marks around the word "invented". i may have said invented, but the quotation marks were used because the word invented was used as a lack of better term. and besides, there is no way you can tell me that it didn't sound like he was trying to claim common knowledge.

You're taking things a little too seriously I think.
I hope your life isn't so bad that you'd curse it because of a small misunderstanding with a stranger on a message board.

I think everything has been settled, keep posting. Have fun.

completely agreed.


@ tudor, its not like you ever post here anyway. there is no use in getting angry over a post on a board you are barely seen on. on that note i hope that this little "tiff" doesn't completely discourage you from visiting here. i'm not a fan of brown nosing like some of the other samus' ^, but like previously said, your input is highly valued here.

 

[Tudor]

lol i'm not angry! Don't be so sensitive guys... although i appreciate it it's just a game

f my life is an expression we use a lot in vegas ^^

Like i told you i wasn't trying to take credit, i do visit these boards a lot, i won't stop visiting, no more drama plz, continue the discussion.

 

[KeepinItFresh]

XD @ everyone taking ish seriously.

Xyro, you rock. Tudor, you rock.

In terms of the vid presented here, I can only imagine to do as well as you did, Xyro, against M2K. I can barely take off a stock against Junk's MK and seeing you play so well against M2K and all the other vids you have against high tiers gives me hope as to what can be accomplished.

You too Tudor. I want more vids from you! And I'm sure others do too.