I have a habit of suiciding

[Mind Man]

I have a tendency to suicide when I'm trying to dair. Do you have any tips for this?

 

[8AngeL8]

If you're dairing off stage (unless you're above the stage already), you need to make sure your momentum is already in an upward direction when you do the dair. For example, you can drop off the ledge, jump and dair, but if you drop off and dair, even with the jump you still have you won't be able to get back.

 

[Mith_]

We all had that habit. My suicide count went from Game & Watch about 100 SDs to about 300 SDs with Falco in a week.

Hit X + Down + A at the same time to not suicide.

Edit: Lol. I checked my records today and Falco is now up to 400 SDs. Ganondorf has passed Falco with a whooping 600 SDs!!!!! Game and Watch got 1000 KOs today :D

 

[BrawLBlazer]

It depends which character you're trying to dair with. Which character are you using?

 

[Mind Man]

It depends which character you're trying to dair with. Which character are you using?

I'm using Falco.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

It depends which character you're trying to dair with. Which character are you using?

I want to cry right now.

 

[BrawLBlazer]

I want to cry right now.

I'm a n00b at these forums =P

 

[BrawLBlazer]

Simply chain grab until the edge and then dair. I don't know much about Falco, though, so sorry. =/

 

[8AngeL8]

You're on the Falco forums, lol. Of course we're talking about Falco.

I'm ashamed to be an '08 joiner right now.

 

[Mith_]

I'm ashamed to be an '08 joiner right now.

I think I may sig that.

 

[8AngeL8]

Lol, go for it.

 

[CELTiiC]

It depends which character you're trying to dair with. Which character are you using?

lol

Yeah 8AngeL8 and Mithx are right, you have to SH dair before you go down, or you won't be able to survive.

 

[Denzi]

Simply chain grab until the edge and then dair. I don't know much about Falco, though, so sorry. =/

Your answer = unsuccessful. Please read question again.

(Jump -> Dair was the correct answer.)

@ 8angel8: I share your pain.

 

[8AngeL8]

Well, hopefully our posting track records will speak for themselves. I know you've made a ton of intelligent posts here on the Falco boards and I don't see how anyone could hold your join date against you.

 

[ZeroFox]

You're on the Falco forums, lol. Of course we're talking about Falco.

I'm ashamed to be an '08 joiner right now.

Yeah I agree. I should have joined back in 2002 when I started playing Melee competitively...

6 years of lurking FTL...

 

[8AngeL8]

Same here, I was never that serious about Melee, I'd just look up things like matchups or find vids of pros, but I decided to join last month and start contributing. Fortunately, no one has brought up join dates yet, but I know it happens.

 

[Mith_]

Lol.
I never played Melee until 6 months after Brawl's release.
I decided to start playing Brawl competitively when I realized that they actually had tourneys for this game lol. And whenever I want to get really good at something I head straight to the internet. I googled SSBB forums and this was the first one to show up so I joined.

 

[J4pu]

Prostyle: hold down while rising then while you are falling you can Dair without fast-falling to your death

 

[GodAwful]

Prostyle: hold down while rising then while you are falling you can Dair without fast-falling to your death

I have a question about that: When you're falling do you have to tap A, or can you stick it?

 

[vKo]

You're on the Falco forums, lol. Of course we're talking about Falco.

I'm ashamed to be an '08 joiner right now.

So much win.

On-topic: Rising spike, that is all.

 

[J4pu]

I have a question about that: When you're falling do you have to tap A, or can you stick it?

Cstick and A both work
be warned though Dair still lasts a long time and shouldn't be used too low
also don't Cstick any aerial other than Dair while holding down, that will cause FF for some strange reason.

 

[Ace201x]

Also make sure you don't fast fall (if some some silly reason you are) while spiking

 

[SilentFalcon]

You're on the Falco forums, lol. Of course we're talking about Falco.

I'm ashamed to be an '08 joiner right now.

I'm just confused how you have an over 500 post count, and you've only been a member for less than a month.... que anyone?
LOL


SF

 

[CELTiiC]

I'm just confused how you have an over 500 post count, and you've only been a member for less than a month.... que anyone?
LOL


SF

He's loyal to the boards, and he posts a lot of helpful posts. He just comes to the boards and gives people helpful posts, and when you do that for awhile, your post count raises pretty steadily. It's not that hard though. Just gotta be committed.

 

[§witch]

Also make sure you don't fast fall (if some some silly reason you are) while spiking

The only way to non-fastfall dairs is to set your control scheme to: c-stick=tilts.
And lol, '08 is a curse.

 

[J4pu]

The only way to non-fastfall dairs is to set your control scheme to: c-stick=tilts.
And lol, '08 is a curse.

or you could read what I just posted...

 

[Korpocalypse]

aaahahahaa. My melee days and '07 joining are finally paying off
I recommend instead of doing a dair if the opponent is below the stage, do a bair towards the stage an u can usually stage spike. but if they're above then you should be fine with a dair

 

[Mith_]

aaahahahaa. My melee days and '07 joining are finally paying off
I recommend instead of doing a dair if the opponent is below the stage, do a bair towards the stage an u can usually stage spike. but if they're above then you should be fine with a dair

After a Dthrow on the end of the level the opponent usually won't go under the level to get stage spiked. If you jump and Dair you can spike them before they regain control of their character, so its a guaranteed kill.

 

[ZeroFox]

Anyway, on topic.

Just practice man. Practice makes better. Perfect practice makes perfect. But as long as you do some practicing, you'll find that you suicide less. I remember the first time I ever picked up Meta Knight, I had some difficulties with his recoveries. My main problem was knowing which method of recovery I should use in a certain situation. It led to a lot of deaths that could have easily been avoided. Eventually I got used to him and he's now a tournament viable main, along with Wolf and Fox.

 

[XxBlackxX]

After a Dthrow on the end of the level the opponent usually won't go under the level to get stage spiked. If you jump and Dair you can spike them before they regain control of their character, so its a guaranteed kill.

a guaranteed spike =/= a guaranteed kill. especially at low percents and if the character has good recovery. some characters you need to double spike to kill (ROB and Snake come to mind) and some youre better off just spiking and then getting back on the stage (MK).

 

[8AngeL8]

He's loyal to the boards, and he posts a lot of helpful posts. He just comes to the boards and gives people helpful posts, and when you do that for awhile, your post count raises pretty steadily. It's not that hard though. Just gotta be committed.

Hey, thanks, man. I'm glad people notice I'm trying to be helpful. Same to you, by the way. You definitely give some quality advice here on the Falco boards (I'm not sure where else you go...)

 

[§witch]

or you could read what I just posted...

You're wrong though, the only way to survive a dair after running off the stage is if you tilt stick.

 

[Darxmarth23]

I'm a n00b at these forums =P

you're a n00b at life. this is the falco boards.

 

[Mith_]

you're a n00b at life. this is the falco boards.

Thank you, that was very necessary.

I think the OP's question has been answered several times, lets let this thread die please.

Unless you wanna talk about Pizzacake, that's cool too.

 

[§witch]

Thank you, that was very necessary.

I think the OP's question has been answered several times, lets let this thread die please.

Unless you wanna talk about Pizzacake, that's cool too.

If anyone talks of pizzacake I may have to explode.

 

[wangston]

Use a rising dair, as in jump and dair. Or if you have real skill barley move the joy stick down at all and hit a, you will do a dair without fast falling though it's hard to do in the heat of battle so just stick with a rising dair.

 

[Keitaro]

You're wrong though, the only way to survive a dair after running off the stage is if you tilt stick.

Yeseroo, very true.

I only dair after running off the stage if I'm playing around in friendlies or have an extra life over a Metaknight trying to plank me. Although a MK planking while they are losing makes no sense, it has been done to me before.

 

[J4pu]

You're wrong though, the only way to survive a dair after running off the stage is if you tilt stick.

Perhaps you should try reading my post, it says holding down while rising, if you run off the stage there is no point where you are rising to hold down, thus my advice does not apply. That doesn't make it wrong.

 

[sMexy-Blu]

Yeah I agree. I should have joined back in 2002 when I started playing Melee competitively...

6 years of lurking FTL...

Yeah me too... I've been lurking the net for like 3 years looking for a decent SSB site and had no anwers till like at the begining of January -______________-

 

[gunterrsmash01]

Same here, I was never that serious about Melee, I'd just look up things like matchups or find vids of pros, but I decided to join last month and start contributing. Fortunately, no one has brought up join dates yet, but I know it happens.

700 posts in a month is pretty ****ing impressive.