I need a Strategy against a Grabbing Donkey Kong

[Colten]

I just can't beat my friend when he uses DK, one mistake and I lost the round. I was guarding the edge and I kicked too early which would have killed him, but he recovered and threw me off. With Captain Falcon I am the master of the air, and good on the ground, my friend is the opposite. He can grab an incoming Falcon kick, or grab me in mid air or when I'm doing an air attack. I need a strategy to get him in the air because once he is in the air, I Smash Up A, followed with 5-10 U-airs and finish him with Up-B which can usually KO him. But when I land, I can't dodge his grabs. He shield grabs so my air attacks leave me open. Any ideas? And I mean he is an insane grabber, he grabs me while I am in mid-attack.
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[Thino]

run back and forth and grab him first

 

[Colten]

run back and forth and grab him first

DK's grab is faster​

 

[W.Jr]

camp!!!!!!!!!

 

[Colten]

camp!!!!!!!!!

I hate camping​

 

[Thino]

DK's grab is faster​

no its done like this:
1)DK tries to grab
falcon runs back
DK's grab fails

or

1)mindgames

then

2) grab DK
10) KO

 

[greenblob]

I hate camping​

Then you lost.

If you're going to rush in all the time, you're going to lose.

 

[Colten]

no its done like this:
1)DK tries to grab
falcon runs back
DK's grab fails

or

1)mindgames

then

2) grab DK
10) KO

Is the only way to do that is by pivoting? And what mindgames can I do?​

 

[hambread]

you're lucky he isnt one of those infinite grabbers.
yes and master pivot-smash/grab/aerial

 

[ant-d]

z-cancel .

 

[Wenbobular]

z-cancel .

Yeah seriously. If you get a hit on his shield low to the ground, then you should be able to Zcancel and then grab before he recovers from shield stun.
I also recommend you get better at recovering, if all it takes is a couple throws to kill you

 

[ShoeThief]

Don't use falcon kick

 

[PikashoX]

this thread reminded me of this video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MgPDFsiQODM

.. lol isai pwns

 

[marthmaster04]

Abuse sheild hitstun, its massive in 64, if you got good timing he wont be able to grab you.

 

[Surri-Sama]

Be fox, use lasers and fast arieal--> Dtilit once you hook a few of them just work some combos in

 

[Colten]

Yeah seriously. If you get a hit on his shield low to the ground, then you should be able to Zcancel and then grab before he recovers from shield stun.
I also recommend you get better at recovering, if all it takes is a couple throws to kill you

Cool, I was thinking that would work, but wasn't sure. Thanks guys!​

 

[hambread]

watch out for the UB and 2 spikes when recovering.

 

[_kSo_]

5-10 uairs?


what are you smoking?

 

[BladeZero]

Best way to beat him is to learn a character with a projectile. That will force him to charge in, leaving him open for attack. Fox, Mario and Pikachu are all good choices.

 

[Surri-Sama]

5-10 uairs?


what are you smoking?

I take it youve never seen Boomfan combo around DreamLand with falcon have you

 

[Rupus]

Boom doesn't ever do 10 Uairs, it's more like four.

 

[nuro]

Your friend is DK?

Put your controller down and go play Barbie Horse Adventures. You can't beat DK it's impossible.

 

[Thino]

on dreamland you can get a max of 6 uairs , maybe 8 on hyrule

 

[cam`]

you can't get more than 8 climbing the hyrule tower? (at home and can't test it)

 

[Thino]

I think you can get more if you're starting from **** tent

 

[jimmyjoe]

He must be exaggerating when he says 10.

Anyway, just z cancel your arials and **** his sheild. run at him and short hop DownA's to his monkey face. If you land on the other side of him your probably better off too because he'll have to turn around before he can attempt his grab, giving you more time to move away or attack again.

 

[Surri-Sama]

lol you guys are jokers ive seen boom get 7 at least starting from the base of Dreamland so o.o;;

 

[Thino]

> 6 = either one of the uairs has been angled to send a bit horizontally or tech-chased on a platform i think

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

I can do 10 on hyrule

 

[Surri-Sama]

haha see, 10 is a bit extream, but possibul

 

[hambread]

i can only do 6 on hyrule. i guess thats the skill gap between civilians and pros.

 

[Zerk]

By the way, how can I escape quickly from DK's Fthrow?

 

[ant-d]

read my posts!!

 

[Zerk]

such as...

 

[dwp171]

yep, constant short-hopped z-canceled aerials will own a grabbing dk. If he shield grabs often, it should be easy for you to hit his shield with an aerial, z-cancel it, and then grab him before he can recover from shielding. The key here is z-canceling consistently and effectively.

 

[onegoal...heaven]

well, it's possible to kinda DI outta DK's forward throw....not when he throws you, but when you wiggle out.....just don't get caught by his throw.