ice climbers have a new chaingrab for brawl.

[toga]

here is the video
but it looks like you can button mash out of it but I still have hope
this almost reminds me of dk's inf.grab he had in the n64 version. The only way I knew how to get out of it was to quickly up b with pikachu.
but the way people seem to get grabed seem similar to the n64 where you couldnt just eaisly button mash out of a grab.


the video from japan too so it might be different from ours.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RwwJoMFGlZc&feature=related


regardless if this will fly in tournament play is beyond me but its still a fun video to watch so have fun.

 

[Xdrows]

great find! Thats interesting that they could keep going. They constantly throw back and forth, like two mafia members

 

[ROFLs]

That looked awesome. Chain grabs are so evil. :devil:

 

[Som]

looks promising, If we don't get the wobble back I'm sure we will still have some nasty grab combos.

 

[ssbm rocks1]

looks good but they werent actually fighting any1 so it might be easy to break out of...

 

[dinhotheone]

imo, it looks impossible to get out of. perhaps mashable but the person doing is it a n00b like everyone else at this point and is slowing it down. perhaps DI straight up gets you out? idk.

 

[billythegoat]

Does this remind anyone else of Z-throwing from melee except now we can control nana? If it works the same way then it is inescapeable, nice find!

 

[toga]

it reminds me now that u mention it.

 

[Spyckie]

we could do this in melee, just only near a ledge... and it was worse than other chain grabs so it didn't grab much attention.

 

[GamerGuitarist7]

more ice climber infinites >.<

 

[lcampoy8]

here is another video of Ice climbers chain grab http://youtube.com/watch?v=PHzSbzqczG0

 

[toga]

now that grab combo looks do-able!

 

[JusDBerube]

here is another video of Ice climbers chain grab http://youtube.com/watch?v=PHzSbzqczG0

That's what I'm talking about! Hope to see even more improvements in the near future.

 

[Speedsk8er]

hmmm gimme Dthrow -> Fairspike anyday.

 

[Yuna]

If that's an infinite, ICs will have to be banned. A game where comboing is very hard where a character can chaingrab you from 0% to death? Yeah, no thanks.

It's the new Wobbling.

 

[ChopingBoard]

If that's an infinite, ICs will have to be banned. A game where comboing is very hard where a character can chaingrab you from 0% to death? Yeah, no thanks.

It's the new Wobbling.

lol, new? you could do that crap in melee. It was hard as hell to time though. I figured this would be back.

 

[Smasher89]

If that's an infinite, ICs will have to be banned. A game where comboing is very hard where a character can chaingrab you from 0% to death? Yeah, no thanks.

It's the new Wobbling.

I´ve tested it and it´s harder to manage do constantly, and I think that´s what´s called the "ledge infinite" in ssbm, totally unescapeable for a bowser but requires setup, something that should be easier in brawl since Nana got some more technical skillz(lol)

 

[OrlanduEX]

If that's an infinite, ICs will have to be banned. A game where comboing is very hard where a character can chaingrab you from 0% to death? Yeah, no thanks.

It's the new Wobbling.

Icies weren't banned in Melee, and there's no reason to ban them now. Infinites are not inherently broken, especially if they are hard to pull off. Since there's no wavedashing now, Icies will gave a hard time actually grabbing anyone.

Also, this s*** looks hard as hell to do.

 

[Nitoheilapine]

These chain grabs look rather hard to pull off. I can't wait to try the timing.

 

[Yuna]

Icies weren't banned in Melee, and there's no reason to ban them now. Infinites are not inherently broken, especially if they are hard to pull off. Since there's no wavedashing now, Icies will gave a hard time actually grabbing anyone.

Also, this s*** looks hard as hell to do.

I don't know why I wrote ICs. Maybe I was tired. I meant it had to be banned.

It also depends on just how hard they are to pull off. If it's hard but easy to do constitently with enough training, timing and skill, then it'll have to be banned.

It's easier to grab now since approach is riskier and harder to do. The game's a turtle-fest, remember? People will just have to work a lot harder on staying safe. It's harder for ICs to rushgrab you, yes. Doesn't mean it's generally harder to get a grab off.

 

[toga]

I just found out u can downthrow fair and regrab them till their % gets to 50 after that you can try what I showed in the video to continue it.

 

[Xephalon]

isnt this called Z-grabbing in melee?? i think it should be kept in the game, since it was never banned for melee(even chain grabbing wasnt banned)

 

[Gindler]

Ummm, air dodge much? how can they ban that and not ridiculous things like fox's hovershine thing?

 

[Lightning Ice]

Ummm, air dodge much? how can they ban that and not ridiculous things like fox's hovershine thing?

You can't airdodge out of it if you do it right, the stun time is more than enough to grab before they can regain control

 

[ChopingBoard]

I just found out u can downthrow fair and regrab them till their % gets to 50 after that you can try what I showed in the video to continue it.

incorrect sir, it stops before 40%. It may work on bigger dudes till then but the fair chaingrab will work, at most, twice. Sometimes only once.

Also to anyone saying this seems hard to do... it isn't! With a few hours of practice i can do it consistantly across whole stages.

 

[toga]

actualy an eaiser way to chaingrab people is to simply down throw when you simply down throw you can re grab them and down throw again this works on several people falcon, mario,sheik,pikachu, and all the space animals. of course the can jump out of it at like 60% put its still a nice way to put pressute and % on your oponent.

 

[toga]

actualy an eaiser way to chaingrab people is to simply down throw when you simply down throw you can re grab them and down throw again this works on several people falcon, mario,sheik,pikachu, and all the space animals. of course the can jump out of it at like 60% put its still a nice way to put pressure and % on your oponent.

 

[Ultimatum479]

If that's an infinite, ICs will have to be banned. A game where comboing is very hard where a character can chaingrab you from 0% to death? Yeah, no thanks.

The Ice Climbers had an infinite grab in Melee too and they weren't banned. If you desynched 'em and just kept hitting the person you had grabbed with perfect timing, they'd never escape, and then you'd just forward-throw for the kill.