KingDozie
Smash Journeyman
- Joined
- Jan 19, 2014
- Messages
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MATCHUPS
FOX
Pros:
-Fast Charc with fast attacks
-Amazing K.O. power
-Great combo ability and damage output
-Amazing aerials
-SHINE/SHINE combos!!!
-Good grab option
Cons:
-High falling speed(Ice climbers can just Cg fox or combo/juggle him).
-Poor recovery unless he mixups his recovery.
NEUTRAL GAME
-Approaching
Fox: Fox can easily approach you so you have to be on your toes. Fox have shine combos to easily separate the ice climbers(Try not to get shine around the ledge it could lead to a shine spike). He will most likely SHFFL aerials to get you. I have never played a fox that would just laser camp ice climbers so you dont have to worry about that. Fox can't really grab you because there's two of them just throw out a Dsmash. The way that fox kills you is from a shine spike or a Up Smash so watch out for those.
Ice Climbers: You have to approach fox with Dash attack mostly when hes SHL a lot. Side tilt work well to give you some distance space. Always Ices jabs are really fast so just you that instead of spamming smash attacks because you will get punish for it. Make sure you CC alot because its better than getting shield pressure from Fox.
-Defensive
Fox:Fox doesn't really play defensive unless he laser camps, Most fox players are aggro. If he tries to do that keep doing desync blizzard--ice blocks and push him to lead for a edgeguard.
Ice climbers: In this matchup you have to be defensive because if you attack fox without a good plan you will get punished hard. You want to using a lot of Desync blizzards-ice blocks, If he tries to FJ over them just Upair(leads to juggles med-high%) or when hes coming down from a FJ aerial punish the lag by Up Tilting(Leads to juggles low%). Make sure you can OOS wavedash because Fox can hit you with ease when spamming rolling or spot dodging.
-Platforms
Fox: He does have some options when hes below you Up Air juggles,Bair, and Nair. Most Fox will go for Upair, Just wavedash off the platforms ice climbers.
Ice climbers: Now when fox is on platforms just Upair spam underneath it. You can also fair him for a techase and that could lead to a CG or Bair kill. Uptilt works it depends of the height on the platforms.
-Edgeguarding
Ice climbers:Fox is pretty easy if you do it correctly sometimes it lame when fox Up B goes through like everything lol. When fox is recovering high hes most likely going for up b and good player will try to sweetspot it so just Down b or CC Dsmash. When you're on the ledge edgehogging just ledge drop then bair him or just Dair to make him recovery low. When fox goes for a side b just jab him or nair. When hes below the stage he only have one option up b, make sure you spam ice blocks lol or down b then go grab the ledge.
-Recovering
Ice climbers: Make sure you recovery low with your Up b or Side b is better if you are synch(Up Air to regain synch). Its also better to air dodge to the stage or to throw a ice block to stop your opponent from attack you in the air.
Ice climbers Stages:
Starters
-Final Destination
-Battlefield
-Fountain of Dreams
-Dreamland (64)
Counterpicks
-Lylat Cruise
-Skyworld
FOX
Pros:
-Fast Charc with fast attacks
-Amazing K.O. power
-Great combo ability and damage output
-Amazing aerials
-SHINE/SHINE combos!!!
-Good grab option
Cons:
-High falling speed(Ice climbers can just Cg fox or combo/juggle him).
-Poor recovery unless he mixups his recovery.
NEUTRAL GAME
-Approaching
Fox: Fox can easily approach you so you have to be on your toes. Fox have shine combos to easily separate the ice climbers(Try not to get shine around the ledge it could lead to a shine spike). He will most likely SHFFL aerials to get you. I have never played a fox that would just laser camp ice climbers so you dont have to worry about that. Fox can't really grab you because there's two of them just throw out a Dsmash. The way that fox kills you is from a shine spike or a Up Smash so watch out for those.
Ice Climbers: You have to approach fox with Dash attack mostly when hes SHL a lot. Side tilt work well to give you some distance space. Always Ices jabs are really fast so just you that instead of spamming smash attacks because you will get punish for it. Make sure you CC alot because its better than getting shield pressure from Fox.
-Defensive
Fox:Fox doesn't really play defensive unless he laser camps, Most fox players are aggro. If he tries to do that keep doing desync blizzard--ice blocks and push him to lead for a edgeguard.
Ice climbers: In this matchup you have to be defensive because if you attack fox without a good plan you will get punished hard. You want to using a lot of Desync blizzards-ice blocks, If he tries to FJ over them just Upair(leads to juggles med-high%) or when hes coming down from a FJ aerial punish the lag by Up Tilting(Leads to juggles low%). Make sure you can OOS wavedash because Fox can hit you with ease when spamming rolling or spot dodging.
-Platforms
Fox: He does have some options when hes below you Up Air juggles,Bair, and Nair. Most Fox will go for Upair, Just wavedash off the platforms ice climbers.
Ice climbers: Now when fox is on platforms just Upair spam underneath it. You can also fair him for a techase and that could lead to a CG or Bair kill. Uptilt works it depends of the height on the platforms.
-Edgeguarding
Ice climbers:Fox is pretty easy if you do it correctly sometimes it lame when fox Up B goes through like everything lol. When fox is recovering high hes most likely going for up b and good player will try to sweetspot it so just Down b or CC Dsmash. When you're on the ledge edgehogging just ledge drop then bair him or just Dair to make him recovery low. When fox goes for a side b just jab him or nair. When hes below the stage he only have one option up b, make sure you spam ice blocks lol or down b then go grab the ledge.
-Recovering
Ice climbers: Make sure you recovery low with your Up b or Side b is better if you are synch(Up Air to regain synch). Its also better to air dodge to the stage or to throw a ice block to stop your opponent from attack you in the air.
Ice climbers Stages:
Starters
-Final Destination
-Battlefield
-Fountain of Dreams
-Dreamland (64)
Counterpicks
-Lylat Cruise
-Skyworld
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