Ike Boards General/Q&A Thread

[Heartstring]

platform cancellnig is jumping onto a moving platform and doing an attack (although i thought it was only d-air) jsut before youre entirely through the platform and you just finish on the platform with no lag and can do anything
thats what i think it is anyway.

also i know im gonig to sound stupid now, but what exactly is light shielding and how do you do it?

 

[-RedX-]

platform cancellnig is jumping onto a moving platform and doing an attack (although i thought it was only d-air).

You don't actually have to input anything other than down to platform cancel.

also i know im gonig to sound stupid now, but what exactly is light shielding and how do you do it?

Light shielding is only in Melee and it's just pressing the L/R buttons slightly, producing a bigger shield. In Brawl, pressing L/R slightly won't make a difference.

 

[Ripple]

I swear ike's match up ratios increase 10 points each when you play on a japanese version. hiis sounds just make you seem like you're playing so much better

 

[Heartstring]

Light shielding is only in Melee and it's just pressing the L/R buttons slightly, producing a bigger shield. In Brawl, pressing L/R slightly won't make a difference.

oh ok, not important to me then, but for sake of making ike seem fast (lol) i need to work on this platform cancelling, when i do it i jsut end up crouching on the platform because atm im a little slow on the inputs.

from waht ive seen, dashing is the best option out of platform cancelling, but thats for marth, we have different options, we could probabl use it to land a cheeky tilt and potentially kill

 

[san.]

I swear there was a video explaining using light shielding for platform canceling. If it was BS, no difference to me. I just want to utilize any and all ways I can move around the stage


For example, 1 way to platform cancel easily/quickly and in more situations is to get a secondary jump button. I use L as jump for this.

Since Ike's jump is slow, and we're platform canceling anyways, it's easy to jump, then quickly press your secondary jump button and platform cancel at the same time. It's also not that difficult to buffer your next input because you're doing the platform canceling in a way where timing isn't really needed that much.

 

[-RedX-]

I should try setting my R button to jump.
I never really use it and L is used for everything else.

 

[san.]

Secondary jump button is very useful for Double jumps. Platform canceling w/ double jump is useful on Rainbow Cruise, especially so characters have difficulty punishing landings on the moving platforms, so I can see myself occasionally using it on the rise part and after the swing. The platforms we can't fall through on RC we can't platform cancel.

 

[bladeboys]

I've been using Dair to platform cancel on moving platforms. 'Been playing around with it, but I don't know how useful it would be in tournament. I have concluded in my mind that it would be merely a gimmick and nothing more, though.

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I know it's not Ike but these are nice stuff with platform cancel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg2x22YH2NE&feature=related 4:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhImtJQs4vM 0:35

 

[Mr. Doom]

I would like to use my L trigger as my secondary jump button, but I've continuously relied on it for my shield button. I also have X set to shield, but mainly that's for power-shielding attacks. >_> I can't seem to break the habit of shielding with the L trigger instead of the X button. I could possibly modify the L trigger into a button, but then again I play other games that require percision in the L and R triggers.

tl;dr version: I want to shield with X and jump with L/Y, but old habits die hard.

 

[bladeboys]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz5CzS1NWB8 Impressive match from Rydle !

 

[theeboredone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz5CzS1NWB8 Impressive match from Rydle !

Old stuff. I'm more interested in why he lost in losers to Ally's Falcon. I find it interesting how bad of a whooping he handed to Ally here only to lose to him later on. Ally, stop sandbagging.

 

[Heartstring]

egh, i so should have gone to bushido but i was out of money by the time i got wind of it, plus seeing as uk brawlers are so very organised, we had one 2-man hotel room for like, 7 people and i was prepared o be sleeping outside hte hotel
still, i so wish i had gone

 

[theeboredone]

Oh my god...they totally ruined Devil May Cry -_-.

 

[san.]

I'm more worried about the developer with the bad track record. Either way, never played a DMC game, so don't really care.

 

[Espy Rose]

I'm still wondering why the revamped vampire dude looks like that lame character from the Twilight series.

 

[san.]

Director: Tameem Antionades

 

[theeboredone]

I hope it's an impostor Dante, and the real Dante is actually slated to be in the game. If it really is a total reboot...gg

 

[DTK.L]

DMC Is too good i dreadfully pray for maybe one last devil may cry game. :/ Or atleast a new fire emblem and no remakes.

 

[Heartstring]

i never played dmc so im ok with whaever happens there, but a fire emblem would be nice, hopefully still featuring ike in some way, if theres a major new lord then chances are he may replace ike if there is a new ssb

 

[jamlosingthegame]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPtTFGT83bQ
I was just shown this is all. Thought it might interest you.

 

[Teh Brettster]

Platform cancel talk.

Clicky here

Just a little somethin' somethin' I thought of. It works pretty well, but you have to know they aren't throwing out an attack or you'll likely DI it down and get wrecked.

 

[Iofsauron]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPxY8lpYAUM

Ahh good times good times.... They actually put all of the Legend of Zelda shows on hulu. I attempted to wath the first few, but they are so god awefully funny (I could not stotake much more) so I just stopped haha

"WOAH, TOASTY!"

 

[Mr. Doom]

A random MK has just touched base in Kansas. It's time for me to deal with that MK.

 

[theeboredone]

Clicky here

Just a little somethin' somethin' I thought of. It works pretty well, but you have to know they aren't throwing out an attack or you'll likely DI it down and get wrecked.

That looked rather sexy. Wonder what else we can do from the edge to platform like that.

 

[san.]

Yeah, that's one of the things I mentioned before. Works best below 100% right after invincibility. Afterwards, it's usually best just to run away to the center of the stage or shield. The thing about getting hit, if they miss, that's a free possible bair.

 

[AN(M)ist]

what is it with espy and furry avatars? nyways, I want to know how close should an opponent be standing near the ledge be aether dragged offstage. like should they be closest to the ledge or a little far like one or two feet enough?

 

[Nysyarc]

what is it with espy and furry avatars? nyways, I want to know how close should an opponent be standing near the ledge be aether dragged offstage. like should they be closest to the ledge or a little far like one or two feet enough?

It depends what kind of stage you're on. For a stage like FD it's very difficult to safely Aether drag someone who isn't standing right on the ledge. Whereas on a stage like Battlefield where you can go pretty far under the stage with Aether, you can drag them from a few feet back (though they may not go off-stage if they're too far back, depending on how many hits they take, shield SDI, etc...).

The closer your opponent is to the ledge the better, and the further under the stage you can go the better. Hard to predict the outcomes of Aether dragging with so many variables.

 

[YagamiLight]

Something really cool has been happening to me lately and I am displeased that I am unable to replicate it.

We all know the blastoff glitch, right? You land on a sloped platform and shoot off a great deal away. Recently I have been spacing Aether so that I land JUST in front of the ledge and whenever the opponent is there and shields I always end up doing the final hit of Aether on the ground and then gently bouncing away to safety (read: just a bit away from the ledge). Of course whenever I try this in training mode nothing happens. It seems like a pretty nifty way to get that extra bit of shield pressure for free, I guess.

It's actually not as cool as I thought it was, now that I've typed it out.

 

[Espy Rose]

what is it with espy and furry avatars?

Why did you seriously ask this question?
It's so obvious.

 

[AN(M)ist]

@ espy: let me rephrase that - other than the fact that you main sonic and that having avatars from his series is completely understandable, seeing furries from other series in you're avatar makes me think that you're in your early twenties (born in late 1980s) and are a huge fan of cartoons made in that era. Am I right?

btw, my reason for deduction is that I'm 20, I grew up with sonic, and had seen alot of furry cartoons that were very popular when I was a kid.

 

[Espy Rose]

Let me try something else:

Isn't it obvious why I chose this avatar?
Or my Sally avatar?
Or my Rita avatar?
Or my Zangoose avatars?
Or my Blaze the Cat avatar?
Or my current collie avatar?

 

[AN(M)ist]

....they all look like you? (lollz)

well they do have a lot in common i can say that. especially the eye structure. You very much like sexy furry avatars then.

 

[Espy Rose]

Sans "avatars", AN(M)ist.

 

[AN(M)ist]

All of them furries? I don't get this 'obvious' hint.

wut about Sans "Avatar"? As far as I know James Comeron made Avatar and that has nothing to do with this.

 

[YagamiLight]

I would spell it out for AN(M)ist but this is slightly more amusing to watch.

 

[Espy Rose]

He's prolly just trollin', Yagami.
I'm just playing along because of the same reason you're watching.

 

[AN(M)ist]

well sans avatars isn't pulling any strings for me. i'm totally unfamiliar with whatever it is.

 

[Nysyarc]

Sans "avatars", AN(M)ist.

I think it's unfair if he doesn't realize the switch of language being used, lol.

You very much like sexy furry avatars then.

Et sans "avatars" c'est...

You very much like sexy furrys then.

Voila!

 

[Espy Rose]

Furries*

Not furrys.

Though that fix is implied, of course.

 

[Heartstring]

too much furry...
seeing as im at college and cant check, does anyone know if ikes ledge jump overlaps with the platforms on lylat? cause if thats the case we could use the platform cancel and then falling bair off the platform to provide a rather fast option against edgechasing and possibly sending an opponent offstage in the process

thinknig about it, as far as edgeguarding with ike goes, are we better off hanging on the ledge and then reacting from there?
i mean we get to a high point faster from the ledgr jump that actually double jumping and we can deal with people recovering low easier from the ledge