Ike Boards General/Q&A Thread

[Heartstring]

I did and yes, it was the best holiday ever!
This is also proof that another hobby, i spent way too much time on this game :L

 

[theeboredone]

Funny how the Ikes here are saying it was a great experience when people everywhere have been complaining about it arguably being one of the worst managed tournies.

 

[Ussi]

They mad Japan won and MK is banned.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

That's because most of them are just whiny nubs who did nothing but whine before the event, during the event and, as you can see, after the event. There were some things that could've been done better, but it would've finished faster if people weren't hogging setups for silly friendlies and MMs.

 

[Heartstring]

It was badly run, yes. But what do i care, I was going out in round 1 pools anyway *shrug*

 

[Ussi]

That's because most of them are just whiny nubs who did nothing but whine before the event, during the event and, as you can see, after the event. There were some things that could've been done better, but it would've finished faster if people weren't hogging setups for silly friendlies and MMs.

Yea, though it didn't help that they weren't calling matches when we were leaving the TVs empty too..

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Yea, though it didn't help that they weren't calling matches when we were leaving the TVs empty too..

That stretch of time we were sitting at an empty setup was pretty much my only personal beef with management, yeah. Everything else I could live with. I still lol @ Sky working so hard for that dollar though. XD

 

[MasterKurei]

I wanted Japan to win and they did so i was :D.

 

[Ussi]

I wanted Japan to win, but not MK....

 

[Heartstring]

I wanted europe to win, But it turns out we suck!

 

[theeboredone]

That's because most of them are just whiny nubs who did nothing but whine before the event, during the event and, as you can see, after the event. There were some things that could've been done better, but it would've finished faster if people weren't hogging setups for silly friendlies and MMs.

Hm, have you been paying attention to the threads regarding what could have been done better in APEX? Cause I heard everything from the seeding, to set up management, to treatment outside of the tourny was poorly done.

 

[Ussi]

17th is not a bad placement at all... That bracket was really... stacked. I just wished San didn't have a bracket of MKs

Like look at this ****:

round 1 havok: if he won, he fought Atomask (avoid namesearch).. but he lost so he fights TO Joe. Beating him meant he had to fight Seibrick (avoid namesearch). If he beat Atomask.. he would then have to play Naiiro. That's it for MKs in san's bracket.. after that its Mr. R, Brood, then ADHD (losers) and the 3 japanese that got top 5 in winners.

what a silly bracket for Ike to face..

 

[theeboredone]

Ussi, I'm also talking about how some of the pools were terrible. If I recall, one had all BBR members consisting of...

dabuz
-espy
-seagull man
-nicole
-hylian

Wtf?

Also, the Japanese players were put into the back of a Uhaul track for transportation methods as well. So lame.

http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=131840

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

I can't possibly see how you could seed this anywhere near perfectly with Apex seeding points, international getting 2nd seeds, trying to avoid regions playing each other (which should never be a big deal IMO, just ask people for friendlies if you want to play more people. even with the few setups, I got in so many friendlies against people, no johns), keeping bias out... seriously, where would you put 1 or 2 of those people in that pool? Ussi had Nicole in his pool so that must be 2nd round, which would only be worse considering how hard it was to seed first round.

Spoiler

Also, NJ is terrible at seeding.

As for treatment outside of the tourney, I haven't heard anything about that but I haven't been keeping track of the thread you mentioned either. I do know that having a significant amount of the staff quitting between Friday and Saturday made things a lot harder than they needed to be, which is not really an excuse but just what I know contributing to the rougher parts.

 

[theeboredone]

People at MLG complained less about how their tourny was run in regards to seeding and such. But that's because they ran no pools and bracketed the whole thing, had dedicated refs, among other things.

And the stream was not good either.

And I heard horror stories of hardly any friendly stations being available, so people just ended up going back to their hotels to play.

 

[san.]

The later MLGs were better with dedicated TVs to friendlies, but then this kind of thing was brought to other nationals.

Anyways, anyone try this mega man flash game? It's pretty good:

http://king-soukutu.com/flash/rokko.html

 

[Ussi]

Also, the Japanese players were put into the back of a Uhaul track for transportation methods as well. So lame.

http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=131840

this is the 2nd time he did that from the comments..

Delicious drama!

 

[theeboredone]

@BS, I'm disappointed why you can't distinguish between playing out of state people in tourny as opposed to friendlies.

 

[Heartstring]

Although he seems like a cool guy, I'm now thinknig back to it and im hard pressed to find something positive that i saw alex do. I needed housing and didn't get it, and had to book at a ****ty motel myself (as ussi can vouch for)
Still, whoever runs it, Apex 2013 would be great

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

@BS, I'm disappointed why you can't distinguish between playing out of state people in tourny as opposed to friendlies.

Eh, still doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me. Could be the lack of character variety I played against *shrug*

 

[MasterKurei]

So you guys think you can help me in mu problems? xD

 

[Ussi]

Although he seems like a cool guy, I'm now thinknig back to it and im hard pressed to find something positive that i saw alex do. I needed housing and didn't get it, and had to book at a ****ty motel myself (as ussi can vouch for)
Still, whoever runs it, Apex 2013 would be great

I seriously thought i shoulda housed somewhere else >_>;;

 

[Teh Brettster]

So you guys think you can help me in mu problems? xD

Damn. Straight.

I'm drunk, LET ME TELL YOU EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING.

 

[Teh Brettster]

WARIO ISN'T THAT GOOD GET AT ME

I can beat him with Zelda, get at me.

3xgetatme

 

[Ussi]

I just realized..

We didn't do any superlatives for the new years...

Oh new theme song for bored: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUxY2Tz6spE&feature=youtu.be

 

[Ussi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJBlSSSUisA&feature=g-u-u&context=G240d099FUAAAAAAABAA

Apparently Ike can scar the ledge

 

[Senliten]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJBlSSSUisA&feature=g-u-u&context=G240d099FUAAAAAAABAA

Apparently Ike can scar the ledge

Anyone else see that quick flicker of black? While I would find it pretty awesome if we can actually pull it off, i'll wait until there is more vids from others pulling it off. May only be possible once we hear the chime anyways. As you can hear them release right after the sound as to where Ike's position is.

 

[theeboredone]

So while doing friendlies with a Marth player yesterday, we were on YI and he up-threw me at around 130. Thing is, I didn't know you could tech the platform above, cause the moment I went above it, I happen to air dodge, and Ike teched the thing. Never seen that happen before.

 

[Ussi]

I think what happens was the platforn was tilting up and you techincally landed on it. Maybe if you didn't tech, you woulda still just landed on it..

 

[theeboredone]

Yeah alright, cause I'm pretty sure that was not supposed to happen lol. We forgot to save the replay. Oh well.

And that's a poor choice for a theme song in regards to me. If I ever got a theme song it would be when...

A. I become mod.
B. It'd play like this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQbDg1LtnAY

 

[Heartstring]

So while doing friendlies with a Marth player yesterday, we were on YI and he up-threw me at around 130. Thing is, I didn't know you could tech the platform above, cause the moment I went above it, I happen to air dodge, and Ike teched the thing. Never seen that happen before.

If you pressed down and airdodged at the same time, It's likely you just platform cancelled, Because AFAIK you can't tech like that normally.
I dunno, to be honest, But it seems like the most likely reason

 

[Ussi]

hmm ah thought of something..

I think what happened is bored probably DI'd to the left/right which happens to cause him to land on the tilted platform due to the angle he was going and the angle of the platform.


EDIT: this is so funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk1oT4HzxRQ&feature=related

 

[Blubolouis]

So while doing friendlies with a Marth player yesterday, we were on YI and he up-threw me at around 130. Thing is, I didn't know you could tech the platform above, cause the moment I went above it, I happen to air dodge, and Ike teched the thing. Never seen that happen before.

I had something similar happen to me not too long ago, on battlefield. An Ivysaur Uthrew me while I was at very high %, like 180%. We were right under the lower platform on the left. I just slammed on the platform as he threw me; no tech or anything.

I guessed it had to do with the height at which Ivy held Ike before throwing him, as well as the direction I was holding on my stick... It reminded me of a funky SDI.

 

[Nidtendofreak]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJBlSSSUisA&feature=g-u-u&context=G240d099FUAAAAAAABAA

Apparently Ike can scar the ledge

Looks similar to a really well timed QD -> grab ledge -> hold back -> DJ -> QD again to me. When I was spamming the pause button on that video, I saw the circles that indicate another jump right at the 0:05 mark.

Of course, there were never any frames I saw where he was hanging onto the ledge, and he already used his DJ in the air. At the same time, it doesn't look like a scar like what Wolf does.

I r confused, somebody explain this wizardry to me.

 

[jamlosingthegame]

I r confused, somebody explain this wizardry to me.

Magic.

Didn't RedX have a video similar to this? I thought he did.

 

[Ussi]

I had something similar happen to me not too long ago, on battlefield. An Ivysaur Uthrew me while I was at very high %, like 180%. We were right under the lower platform on the left. I just slammed on the platform as he threw me; no tech or anything.

I guessed it had to do with the height at which Ivy held Ike before throwing him, as well as the direction I was holding on my stick... It reminded me of a funky SDI.

What happened is that when he threw you, your initial position after being thrown was above that platform and then you SDI'd into the platform during the hitlag after being thrown. its the same thing as SDI'ing into the ground when you are in the air just above the ground, since you can only tech whats below you when you are in the air.

Looks similar to a really well timed QD -> grab ledge -> hold back -> DJ -> QD again to me. When I was spamming the pause button on that video, I saw the circles that indicate another jump right at the 0:05 mark.

Of course, there were never any frames I saw where he was hanging onto the ledge, and he already used his DJ in the air. At the same time, it doesn't look like a scar like what Wolf does.

I r confused, somebody explain this wizardry to me.

You hold onto the ledge for at least 39 frames though before you can let go or something. He definitely did a scar since it was instant. He did use his double jump though, that's kinda obvious from looking at things... but you don't usually get your jump back from scaring i think.. i forget now that I think of it. Still would be great to QD scar > aether plank. Still doesn't make QD a good recovery option either.

 

[MasterKurei]

Can Ike Grab to Pivot Grab Wario? I been doing this on practice mode but i dont know if its legit.

 

[Ussi]

Yes, its frame perfect though.. You can't buffer the pivot since buffering makes you do it too early

 

[MasterKurei]

Wow this is pretty cool.Yo im open for some cool Ike tricks.

 

[Heartstring]

From what TTT showed me, wolf gets his jump back from doing the SCAR. I think it's character specific

Also IIRC, we have 2 frames of being able to pivot grab wario, At least thats what the video on the subject says.