Inactivity: Jigglypuff's Anime Club

[pidgezero_one]

So as it turns out, the only games I win anymore are with Puff.

I guess I'm a puff main now

 

[Desu~]

Hey guys, let's start a new topic that could enhance Jiggs metagame.
Power shield into rest.

 

[SoulPech]

tried it..not guaranteed >.>

 

[Osennecho]

So as it turns out, the only games I win anymore are with Puff.

I guess I'm a puff main now

Get back to me after you fight Olimar/G&Ws =.=... And even Snake... And tell me if you are still winning. Although I prefer Snake over the other two.

tried it..not guaranteed >.>

Buffer the rest?/Would that even be possible out of a PS?/possible at all?.... I lack the knowledge <.<.... Never tried to buffer a rest because of how situational it is to begin with. Actually I hardly buffer anything at all anymore =.=... I need to get start buffering some moves of various characters again... This post is making me feel like I'm worse than I thought I was...

 

[SoulPech]

quick question: Do you mean they run into you and you PS or you run to them and PS?

 

[Desu~]

Well obviously when i talked about something as risky as this, something on my head said something like:
"When they run into you."
But really, would be ballsy to run at them and PS follow up with rest.

Because here's an idea:
I just thought it could punish Wolf's Fsmash if anyone depended on it as a killing move. Someone would then predict it and, with enough precision, could pull that out at high %. I guess it could be worth the try. In fact, i'll try it out and give you guys the results eventually.

 

[SoulPech]

that is viable w/ wolf's fsmash. I've done it with Luminoth before and he gets upset by it, lol.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Anything -> rest shouldn't be considered viable.

Rest is a decent move at best, kills most people at when a fsmash or roll out would kill and shouldn't be attempted unless you know it's going to hit or you're going to die at 30%.

 

[Desu~]

Darn, too bad you don't have a recorded replay of this.
Would have been great actually.

 

[SoulPech]

Mink,

what I mean is against wolf, there were times Lumi did an fsmash. I would power shield, then rest him out of it. I mean, it's not 100% viable (more like situational), but it's possible.

 

[pidgezero_one]

Get back to me after you fight Olimar/G&Ws =.=... And even Snake... And tell me if you are still winning. Although I prefer Snake over the other two.

I fight oli, snake, G&W, and marth all the time

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

I fight oli, snake, G&W, and marth all the time

I can vouch for the accuracy of this

 

[Osennecho]

I fight oli, snake, G&W, and marth all the time

Did the G&W actually know/do what it's supposed to do against Puff?.... Cuz I've fought good G&W's before that didn't which makes them like 20x easier. Marth doesn't impress me much because I know the PuffvMarth matchup well as they are my 2 best characters. Oli I'm like 50:50 all time and Snake v Puff I'm horrible at because I simply don't know how to fight Snake... Like its sad how horrible I am fighting that character. I prefer t purely because I get to learn the matchup more.
Either way... That's an impressive feat to be good against those characters with Puff.... You have my full approval, which is worth almost nothing

 

[SoulPech]

Like...mediocre GW players can beat me. If they space their bair well and use bucket properly. the MU is difficult, bu it's beatable.

 

[Desu~]

Then what kind of feature G&W has that makes the Jiggs MU unwinnable?
It's mostly the knockback and the recovery right?

 

[SoulPech]

his dtilt beats the majority of what we do, we can die waaaay earlier, Bair can be difficult, nair can be difficult, and it's difficult to punish dair if not timed correctly.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Pech I was referring the other guys discussing Ps rest. Not you. Haha.

Wolfs fmash is bad.

 

[Desu~]

Get back to me after you fight Olimar/G&Ws =.=... And even Snake... And tell me if you are still winning.

Bro, screw all of them.
You really want to know what's stupid fun?
****ing.
Sheik.

 

[Osennecho]

Bro, screw all of them.
You really want to know what's stupid fun?
****ing.
Sheik.

Wouldn't know... I've never fought a capable Sheik outside of melee and yelling at the one in Zelda games for being bothersome... But yah... Best one I personally know in brawl is my Sheik incapable of DACUS... I presume crouching as Puff wouldn't take you outside the sweet spot range during DACUS would it?
Also, your Avatar is so f***ing trollishly cute I don't know how to feel each time I see it....

 

[SoulPech]

I will agree that using Shiek can be fun...I won't lie.

though.

though...

:meta..... nah j/k

 

[Desu~]

But what is not fun is when you fight against sheik.
With Jigglypuff.
It's terrible.

 

[SoulPech]

what do you need to know? Mink and I know that MU inside and out.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Basically

Also.
I'm hosting Come to Papa IV in July, tryin' to make it big before i move out of Orlando.

Anyone wanna travel?

 

[TM_icecream]

Where are you moving?

Rest is viable in stage-spiking situations

Roll-out is puffs best move

Dsmash is viable

Snake is free to flying just fly over nades and be a old skool black man

And by that I mean rock the weave. Weave Bairs in and out of his ftilt range and win
Sheik is my favorite in both zelda games and mid-tiers

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I don't know where i'm moving yet.
All depends where my friend gets a job (could be anywehre in the US)
I'm graduating and i like the adventure of going YOLO.

 

[TM_icecream]

Maybe you should YOLO to tx and teach my how to dougie(read: play puff at a top level)

I'd literally quit MK

 

[Desu~]

Or come to Canada.
We have poutine.

But really, where do you live right now?

 

[Juushichi]

Hey guys, let's start a new topic that could enhance Jiggs metagame.
Power shield into rest.

I once PS's Pech's Samus' ftilt and rested him for it.

I am best Puff NA.

 

[SoulPech]

I once PS's Pech's Samus' ftilt and rested him for it.

I am best Puff NA.

I don't even...um..uh.. but....umm.. *ahem*

when?

 

[Desu~]

That's because he loves Slayers and Slayers is cool.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I'm in Orlando fL

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Rest is very viable, it's a frame 2 KO move, 'nuff said. Power-shield to rest obviously can be guaranteed depending on the situation, even Rest OoS can.

None of her MUs are hard, you've just got to get better. :D

 

[SoulPech]

I want to see you PS Falco's Jab, then rest him at 50%. Then tell me that it kills

>:|

 

[dettadeus]

I could do it at like 80. ;c

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Why should rest KO at 50%? Snake's up tilt is a KO move and it doesn't even KO puff that early.

 

[Desu~]

Rest doesn't even KO at 80% anyways. (well i guess for the majority of the cast)

 

[SoulPech]

Rest is very viable, it's a frame 2 KO move, 'nuff said.

KO is signifies that as soon as it contacts the other person, it takes a stock off right away. it does NOT do that on most chars from 0-80%. PS to Rest is not viable because there are some characters (fox) where if you powershield their move, they can powershield rest almost instantly...depending on the move. it's good if you don't really care and about to lose a stock anyway, but that's it...it's a high risk/ ok reward.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

^ YEAH

People are seeing things.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

KO is signifies that as soon as it contacts the other person, it takes a stock off right away. it does NOT do that on most chars from 0-80%.

In that case, what is the point of the term OHKO (One-Hit KO)? Seriously, ask anyone if Snake's up tilt is a KO move and they will say yes.

PS to Rest is not viable because there are some characters (fox) where if you powershield their move, they can powershield rest almost instantly...depending on the move. it's good if you don't really care and about to lose a stock anyway, but that's it...it's a high risk/ ok reward.

PS to Rest is not viable because if you use it in a situation where it doesn't work, it won't work. Ok.

It isn't even a situation where risk/reward applies. There is no risk in PS > Rest (assuming you're doing it when it's guaranteed, i.e. PS'ing a Warlock Punch or something). It's not like they have a chance of reading the rest and punishing you; if you PS a laggy move that you can always Rest, there is no risk involved.

 

[Desu~]

Well there's always the accuracy of the rest.
If you aim bad. It's over.