Inactivity: Jigglypuff's Anime Club

[Grim Tuesday]

You'll have to try for second best, sorry chief.

 

[-LzR-]

I don't know what reference that was and I don't even want to.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

It wasn't a reference, surprisingly.

 

[-LzR-]

Mind = blown

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Go

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Then yes, Jigglypuff is pretty bad. She's only good when she can plank :/

But she is still a lot better than her tier position indicates, lol, she's definitely usable with a secondary to cover Snake and stuff.

....
She's not only good if you plank

you're doing it wrong.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

It changes so many of her match-ups from even or disadvantageous to advantageous.

Also, because of how simple it is, it lets you keep stamina more easily throughout a tournament and automatically prevents losses to any plankable-character due to not knowing the match-up. Due to it's similar use across a wide range of match-ups, it also means that when practicing you can focus on characters who AREN'T beaten by planking more heavily, thus becoming better at those match-ups.

It's like King Dedede's chain grab, or Meta Knight's tornado. Little things that just make EVERYTHING easier for those characters in the long run.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

There are so many things that jigglypuff has besides planking.
You are the ONLY puff that claims to plank.

Then there are people like me and puffster who do pretty good with her, without planking.
Plus, a majority of the world has a LGL. Infact, ALL US brawl tourneys do. Especially w the unity ruleset.

Remember that when you're writing write ups and giving advice.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

1. I know Jigglypuff has other things besides planking.
2. There aren't that many Jigglypuffs, let alone successful ones, so me being the only one to plank doesn't mean that much, lol.
3. I never said that planking is a prerequisite to perform well with her.
4. I am aware that the majority of the world has a LGL.
5. I challenge you to link me to one of my recent posts where I gave advice that only applies to no-LGL Puffs, lol.

Nice strawman argument, though. I've already explained in my above post why planking is so helpful, you only attempted to counter claims I never made. If you aren't arguing that planking doesn't make Puff a ****-ton better, then we have no disagreement. If you ARE arguing that planking doesn't make Puff better, than actually argue it.

 

[Exegguter]

I am dropping jiggs for dk. Just letting y'all know. Don't hate me, cuz I love you.



Bye.

 

[-LzR-]

lol You suck

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

lol You suck indeed.


Also guys, i'm repping us in the BBR panel for the new MU thread.

:D

 

[Noobicidal]

So, I didn't miss anything important.

Neat.

 

[<π]

jiggs.
Just wait and bait guys!

 

[Kaptain]

lol you suck indeed.


Also guys, i'm repping us in the bbr panel for the new mu thread.

:d

mission accomplished. Returning to base.

 

[-LzR-]

I am soo totally using G&W in tournaments from now on. At least as a secondary. He *****.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

He's pretty good.

against puff.

 

[Blissard]

Back in 08 G&W was 4th best in the game ^.^
In fact I was just looking at the old list...it's weird:
Top
Meta Knight
Snake
King Dedede
Mr. Game & Watch
Falco
R.O.B.

High
Marth
Wario
Lucario
Donkey Kong
Diddy
Pikachu
Ice Climbers
Kirby
Pit
Wolf

Middle
Toon Link
Olimar
Fox
Zelda
Zero Suit Samus
Bowser
Luigi
Peach
Ike
Sheik

Low
Lucas
Ness
Mario
Pokémon Trainer
Samus
Yoshi
Sonic
Jigglypuff
Ganondorf
Link
Captain Falcon

Btw where do you guys buy GC controllers? Cause I'm thinking about applying for the Smash Lab :3

 

[Brickbox]

Zelda is so high 0_o

And lol Ganon not being last xD

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Sonic so bad.

Rob so good.

 

[IhaveSonar]

Olimar and Zamus so low. Bowser so high. Ganon so high.


Oh, how naive we were back in '08.

 

[Jigglymaster]

We're still naive. Otherwise Jigglypuff wouldn't be this low still.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I'm so happy you're back.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

Back in 08 G&W was 4th best in the game ^.^
In fact I was just looking at the old list...it's weird:
Top
Meta Knight
Snake
King Dedede
Mr. Game & Watch
Falco
R.O.B.

High
Marth
Wario
Lucario
Donkey Kong
Diddy
Pikachu
Ice Climbers
Kirby
Pit
Wolf

Middle
Toon Link
Olimar
Fox
Zelda
Zero Suit Samus
Bowser
Luigi
Peach
Ike
Sheik

Low
Lucas
Ness
Mario
Pokémon Trainer
Samus
Yoshi
Sonic
Jigglypuff
Ganondorf
Link
Captain Falcon

Btw where do you guys buy GC controllers? Cause I'm thinking about applying for the Smash Lab :3

Zelda is so high 0_o

And lol Ganon not being last xD

I remember someone actually saying Zelda could be high tier back then, look where she is now. oh how slow girl has fallen.

 

[T-block]

Yeah, Zelda and Sonic make me laugh when I look at that tier list.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=295091

lets bust this baby back open.

 

[Phantom Gamer]

I'm glad to see that Sonic has gone up in the tier list from back then to now.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=295091

lets bust this baby back open.

I ain't necroing till someone else does lol

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Necro-ing never felt so good.

If anyone wants to know what i said in the Brawl Panelists, this is what i said.

Spoiler

Just in case, i'ma steal this.





-3:
-2:
-1:
0:
1:
2:

from -3 to -4
from -3 to -2
from -3 to -2
from -3 to -2
from -2 to -1
from -2 to -1
from -2 to -3
from -2 to -3
from -2 to -1
from -2 to -1
from -2 to -1

In question:
Luigi - higher?
Lucario - higher?
Pikachu - Lower?


My MU spread

Spoiler

-4
-3:
-2: -? -?
-1: -?
0:
1:
2:

 

[Kaptain]

We should work harder to get more positive numbers up here...

 

[EraOfGames]

Nice MU spread, just think it's a tad pessimistic.

BTW you listed ROB twice.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Oh good call.
It is pessimistic.
But we're also 3rd (i think 5th) worst in the game.

we should be higher than ganon, zelda, link, cf.

 

[IhaveSonar]

I would like to argue that we should go up a tier.... but then I realize that we still have the worst results in the game. : /


Then again, doesn't Pit have the worst results(or close to the worst) results in mid-tier? He's still above quite a lot of characters.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Not sure.
But we have the least amount of representation in the game.

 

[Brickbox]

Snake should be -4 imo
He is waaaaay harder than mk imo

 

[IhaveSonar]

Not sure.
But we have the least amount of representation in the game.

Hmm.... True.

I wonder if we took each character's tournament wins and divided the number by their representation to get a success-to-representation ratio, who would have the lowest score then.

 

[-LzR-]

It would still be us lol. I kinda hate how I cant use Puff in tournaments since I am such a tier*****...

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Stuff

You are way too pessimistic with the mid and low tiers

If only Jigglypuff's placing wasn't judged at the start of the game so when we say "Puff isn't actually THAT bad", people would believe us.

 

[-LzR-]

Too bad it's the Brawl logic. She ain't top tier, but she was in a totally different game so she must suck in this one, no exceptions.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Grim's Craaaazy Tier List:
S: :metaknightbrawl:
A: :snakebrawl:, :diddybrawl:, :falcobrawl:
B: :marthbrawl:, :wariobrawl:, :olimarbrawl:, :icsbrawl:
C: ikachubrawl:, :lucariobrawl:, :gwbrawl:, :zssbrawl:, :dededebrawl:, :toonlinkbrawl:
D: :foxbrawl:, :wolfbrawl:, eachbrawl:
E: :kirbybrawl:, :robbrawl:, :dkbrawl:, :sonicbrawl:, itbrawl:
F: :ikebrawl:, :yoshibrawl:, :luigibrawl:, :sheikbrawl:, tbrawl:, :jigglypuffbrawl:
G: :nessbrawl:, :mariobrawl:, :lucasbrawl:, :bowserbrawl:, :samusbrawl:, :falconbrawl:
Hyrule: :linkbrawl:, :zeldabrawl:, :ganonbrawl:

And just because...

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C: :ganonmelee:, , , ,
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G: , :gwmelee:,
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