Into The New World :: Generation V Competitive Metagame Discussion

[choknater]

bring back blaziken ;_;

 

[kirbyraeg]

ferroseed/clefable/golurk/seismitoad/uxie/slowking

idea is to just get spikes up and then do dumb stuff

it didn't use gravity very well at all, but there are no fast-ish ground types to abuse earthquake with.

 

[choknater]

love it, very quirky and colorful

are those pokes common in ru?

 

[Gates]

there are no fast-ish ground types to abuse earthquake with.

Use Rock Polish Steelix.

On a serious note though, what about Nidoqueen? It's not super fast but with Paralysis support it could be extremely threatening.

 

[Wave⁂]

Nidoqueen @ Life Orb | Sheer Force
252 HP / 252 SpAtk / 4 Def / Modest
Earth Power / Gunk Shot / Blizzard / Thunder

 

[Gates]

Nidoqueen @ Life Orb | Sheer Force
252 HP / 252 SpAtk / 4 Def / 0 Spe/ Modest
Earth Power / Gunk Shot / Blizzard / Thunder

Whaaaaaaaaat.

Nidoqueen needs at least 248 Spe (Modest) to outrun Absol, Roselia, and CB Golurk. kirbyraeg's team is super weak to Absol, so he needs to get on that ****.

 

[Wave⁂]

I dunno, having Nidoqueen as your Absol counter is kind of iffy, she gets 2HKOed pretty hard by Night Slash + Sucker Punch. And both Nidoqueens work as a check.

 

[kirbyraeg]

Use Rock Polish Steelix.

On a serious note though, what about Nidoqueen? It's not super fast but with Paralysis support it could be extremely threatening.

i should've said it but golurk is an offensive rock polish set

nidoqueen is that awkward point where it isn't bulky enough to tank hits or fast enough to sweep through teams...i really wish krookodile was ru. i considered using rhydon too but it's extremely not bulky and i thought there were too many grass types it couldn't muscle through, but i never saw a tangrowth/bulky grass in all my laddering, so perhaps i'll give it a go and throw on bouffalant to cover the explicit grass weakness

love it, very quirky and colorful

are those pokes common in ru?

they aren't particularly, ferroseed is around and slowking is really common, but the others aren't so much

 

[Wave⁂]

Just found out Nidoqueen doesn't actually get Gunk Shot, **** this

 

[IceArrow]

Use Dynamic Punch Dusknoir

 

[choknater]

use magnemite while you're at it

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

So i made a uu team which is doing pretty well. i dont have all the ev's memorized but here it is

cresselia
leftovers
whatever nature raises spc d and lowers attack
252 hp and some strange mix of def and spc def ev's

thunderwave
ice beam
moonlight
energy ball/charge beam/toxic

heracross
moxie
jolly (i think)
leftovers

sub
close combat
stone edge
megahorn

Raikou
4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
leftovers
timid

sub
Calm Mind
Thunderbolt
Hidden Power Ice

metagross (yea on po he is uu)
leftovers

sub
hone claws
eq
mm

co***
the berry that wakes you up

calm mind
rest
shadow ball
hp fighting

claydol
leftovers

rapid spin
sr
eq
toxic

(this team is pretty good, also i got lazy writing this stuff out as you might be able to tell)

 

[choknater]

shoutouts to co***rigus

 

[Wave⁂]

I'd rather use Agiligross. The Hone Claws set sort of fills the same role as Heracross.

 

[Grizzlpaw]

No Luck

Yup. My usual luck when playing competetive pokemans...



http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oucurrent4483719

 

[Gates]

Yup. My usual luck when playing competetive pokemans...



http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oucurrent4483719

***** please.

 

[hichez50]

Would anybodt ever want to play 5th gen on a simulator with me?

 

[Grizzlpaw]

***** please.

Okay.
How about this then?

http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oucurrent4829254

Spoiler

Btw, that double Wish was actually a server derp. :/

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

I know this isnt the place to ask this, but i am about to get a half priced ipad through school. Anyone know if ether po or showdown work on an ipad?

 

[Wave⁂]

I know it works on Android.

 

[Pink Reaper]

So, having absolutely no idea how gen 5 works I've jumped into Pokemon Showdown using my Gen 4 team. So far I've faced a Rain Team that lost to my Breloom, a sun team that lost to my TTar, a Sand team that lost to a combination of my breloom and my infernape, a BP team that tried to pass shell smassh(which lost to my Scarf Zapdos) and like, 15 Genesects. So I finally looked up Genesect and why on earth is that an OU pokemon?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Genesect is up for ban and likely to get banned.

However, something you should worry about is Garchomp. He ain't gettin' banned any time soon and he runs over frail teams pretty easily.

Are you running Technician Breloom?

 

[Wave⁂]

Genesect only has like five moves, so even if you aren't 100% sure it's Scarfed or LO or whatever, you still know what moves it's using. Also hilarious base speed. Still gay though.

 

[UltiMario]

Still putting money on Gene staying OU, so don't get any hopes up for it being gone soon.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Either a scarf or expert belt set. You don't know the difference. Guessing wrong can cost you a Pokémon. GG.

What do people here use against Deoxys-Ds?


lol Ulti what value does your opinion hold tho

 

[Pink Reaper]

What's a technician breloom? Sounds bad.

Why would i worry about Garchomp? I didnt worry about him back when he wasnt broken in Gen 4, im doubting they gave him something like Adaptability in Gen 5 or anything to make him worse.

I faced a couple Deoxys-D so far but every time they came out I was already at +1/+1 on TTar so they just died.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Technician ability on Breloom. It's really good.

Revenge kill? Sure. Sweep? Sure. Force your opponent to run Celebi or Latias or sac a poke each time it gets in? Priceless.
Oh and spore obv

 

[Wave⁂]

Either a scarf or expert belt set. You don't know the difference. Guessing wrong can cost you a Pokémon. GG.

Guess wrong and I lose a Pokemon. Guess right and Kyurem-B gets a free Sub, Heatran forces a switch, any one of my Scarfers kills you on the spot...

 

[UltiMario]

None since I'm too lazy to ladder to top positions anymore.

Edit: Posts in this thread happen too fast

 

[Pink Reaper]

Technician ability on Breloom. It's really good.

Revenge kill? Sure. Sweep? Sure. Force your opponent to run Celebi or Latias or sac a poke each time it gets in? Priceless.
Oh and spore obv

That's great and all, but it really feels like SporePunch breloom is still the best pokemon in the game, just like last generation. Just sit there killing things and heal all the health.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Guess wrong and I lose a Pokemon. Guess right and Kyurem-B gets a free Sub, Heatran forces a switch, any one of my Scarfers kills you on the spot...

Though the initiative is Genesect's because he has Uturn :hamtaro:

That's great and all, but it really feels like SporePunch breloom is still the best pokemon in the game, just like last generation. Just sit there killing things and heal all the health.

You really shouldn't be able to set up with sub 'loom these days. All the more power to you if you manage it though. :v

 

[UltiMario]

Heatran always forces Gene out anyways.

It's why Gene+Dugtrio is okay.

Shell Shell or Choice Scarf tran solves that though.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Though the initiative is Genesect's because he has Uturn :hamtaro:



You really shouldn't be able to set up with sub 'loom these days. All the more power to you if you manage it though. :v

Idk, maybe it's because of all the bulky slow pokemon I've encountered, like Swampert, Ferrothorn and Hippo

Edit: that's not counting the surprising number of Politoed I've run into.

 

[Wave⁂]

Swampert

surprising number of Politoed

It's like you're speaking a completely different language

 

[Pink Reaper]

Well with swift swim/drizzle banned i didnt expect so many people to be running it. Not that I mind much, my team has a few pokemon that **** all over it.

Also I've seen a lot of gastrodon as well but never set up on it. Mostly i just hit it and it dies.

 

[choknater]

gastro is pretty good on a well built rain stall team

 

[UltiMario]

PR all the good ladder people already went and hit reqs they're too lazy to play right now.

 

[IceArrow]

Kyurem-B in OU is retarted. How the hell should this be in OU.

http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/kyurem-b

700 BST

 

[The Real Gamer]

Because it sucks... It's weak against SR, it's not fast enough to pull off any sweeps, it's easily revenge killed, etc.

It's pretty much a slightly better Haxorus (for wall breaking that is).

 

[IceArrow]

It's a great wall, has a stat that is 170, and the strongest outrage in the game.