It's out in Europe now, so... Any gameplay differences?

[mister_subarashi]

Like smoother loading times or better online?
Any differences in the characters and their balance?

I already know that different languages are a given, so don't even go there

 

[:034:]

No. There are no differences gameplay-wise. Except that I find the load times a bit longer (played both versions). Haven't tested online yet.

 

[MrOtter]

Does anybody know if we can use our American saves for our Uk games?

 

[Demon_Fox]

Does anybody know if we can use our American saves for our Uk games?

I don't think you can. You couldn't even use the Japanese for the American, although both are NTSC. With the NTSC - PAL difference the gap widens more.

 

[mister_subarashi]

No. There are no differences gameplay-wise. Except that I find the load times a bit longer (played both versions). Haven't tested online yet.

You have to be kidding... At least when we waited for the PAL Melee we got shorter loadtimes...

 

[:034:]

There are some minor changes, though: the stage names aren't in caps, but are typed normally. There is no language option and the Pokémon names are given in caps (ex: PIKACHU rather than Pikachu).

 

[scotty_s7]

yeh load times are deffinantly longer, the Loading..... appearing more than it did in the NTSC copy. I think that the trophies that appear at the beggining are a different variety than the NTSC ones.... and maybe some of the trophies in the challenges are different.

 

[J0™]

"Pikmin & Olimar" is just called "Olimar" in the PAL version iirc

 

[Jigglymaster]

Does Jigglypuff have her other names in the French and German versions? Which are Rondoudou and Pumeluff.

 

[Storm Eagle]

I just saw the game in a store nearby. The front cover looks very washed out. I'm still struggling if I should buy it... (I have the US Version already).

 

[Demon_Fox]

Does Jigglypuff have her other names in the French and German versions? Which are Rondoudou and Pumeluff.

I didn't unlock Jiggly aka Pummeluff in Germany yet but since they even changed the narrator's voice I'm almost 100% certain they also changed that.

Edit: The gift of tripping hasn't been taken from us. /sarcasm

 

[dooky]

Just got the PAL version, and as far as I could tell, the load times were actually a lot shorter than the ones I've seen on videos of the US/Japanese version. I'm playing it on a Wii that's only a few weeks old though, so maybe that could account for the difference?

 

[Negi-Kun]

"Pikmin & Olimar" is just called "Olimar" in the PAL version iirc

It's like that in the American version.

 

[Plazma]

nvm. comment was dumb, i read post wrong and i cant delete comments it seems

 

[Kendra]

Loading times in some cases are ********.

 

[Kros]

Nintendo was suppose to make online have less lag. That was suppose to be a reason for the delay. And the languages.

 

[~N9NE~]

I tried 'With Anyone' for one match. Wasn't too bad at all.

 

[Gelsamel]

When playing online with Someone, somewhere while in Oceania 90% of the games you get are a total lagfest. It's possible it's my router (doubtful) but my guess is we're just playing with people outside Oceania and if it goes outside Oceania then we have to route through Singapore for the internet connection, which means huge MS latency.

 

[Dream Chaser]

Are any of the known ATs/glitches/etc removed?

 

[Gelsamel]

I don't think I'm good enough at the game to know.

I never played Melee competitively (well, noone could beat me, but my sample size was like 4 [wtb more players] and I wasn't anywhere near as good as the crazy guys on youtube), plus I am using the Nunchuck+Wiimote (it's SO HORRIBLE).

Some of the glitches on Youtube where you would teleport around on custom made maps don't seem to be happening (at least in the few games that I played on my custom made maps).

 

[Morrigan]

OMG THERE'S NO TRIPPING!!!11yesss

 

[Banana Boy]

didn´t you have to throw that "make enemy a trophy" item at taboo to finally defeat him in the us/japanese version ?

I think i just did not O.o

 

[ƒox]

I just saw the game in a store nearby. The front cover looks very washed out. I'm still struggling if I should buy it... (I have the US Version already).

Why would you need 2?

 

[Lawrencelot]

Why would you need 2?

You clearly didn't face Europeans online

 

[Veggi]

didn´t you have to throw that "make enemy a trophy" item at taboo to finally defeat him in the us/japanese version ?

I think i just did not O.o

You didn't have to, was just if you wanted to get his trophy.

 

[Roller]

OMG THERE'S NO TRIPPING!!!11yesss

I'm sorry but I don't believe you...And if that is true...then I HATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU!

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Lol. There is tripping in the PAL version don't worry we're suffering like you lot as well
Haven't got a clue about any AT's being removed. I doubt they could make any changes because of online Brawling (For example, Glide Tossing with Peach works in the Pal version). Speaking of Online Brawling, I'm not sure about your online but atm from my experience the online is rather poor indeed. The lag can be awful at times. I thought my Wii had crashed at one point but it turned out it was just the lag :embarrass

 

[Yuna]

Just got the PAL version, and as far as I could tell, the load times were actually a lot shorter than the ones I've seen on videos of the US/Japanese version. I'm playing it on a Wii that's only a few weeks old though, so maybe that could account for the difference?

Maybe the vids you're watching are of burnt copies, which are known to have longer loading times. Loading times also shift depending on what you last did, if you last played a game as P1 Zelda vs. P2 Jigglypuff on Final Destination and then load up an identical game, the loading time will be almost non-existent compared to if you were to switch characters and stage.

Also, Sakurai has proven himself to be at least moderately insane. I'm not surprised half of what he claimed would be in the PAL version isn't.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

I played it tonight, I noticed no differences. All that crap about load times being longer is rubbish.

Oh, and there's no tripping!!

 

[Edds]

wow really?

 

[Pluvia's other account]

wow really?

Sadly, no.

I hope whoever decided that tripping would be a good idea got fired. Also, your NTSC save files don't work for the PAL version of Brawl, it's so lame.

 

[AmigoOne]

Also, Sakurai has proven himself to be at least moderately insane. I'm not surprised half of what he claimed would be in the PAL version isn't.

What did he claim would be in the PAL version?

 

[Yuna]

I played it tonight, I noticed no differences. All that crap about load times being longer is rubbish.

Oh, and there's no tripping!!

You having not tripped yet =/= There is no tripping... especially if other people have tripped. Also, apparently it was a joke. Don't joke about stuff like that. It breaks less logical people's hearts.

What did he claim would be in the PAL version?

Improved loading times (yeah, right), less online lag (not any visible such from what people can tell), possible improved character balance and bug fixes (none found insofar, but then again, I'm stuck in Vietnam so I can't personally check it out myself).

But this is Sakurai, the man who thinks Tripping is good, making a game easier to play constitutes balance, Snake's hitboxes not being illogical and making Ganondorf lag more than in Melee (but not noticably stronger) were all good ideas.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

Also, apparently it was a joke. Don't joke about stuff like that. It breaks less logical people's hearts.

I apologize.

Also, I tried out that glitch with Kirby in Pictochat, it still works. If they never removed that glitch, then I doubt they've made any changes to the characters or gameplay. Plus, I don't think they could make any changes, it would just make it even more broken online.

 

[Crosshash]

there definately is tripping in the game.

From what I've played online, the lag has been really bad.

i played several games with a bunch of friends who live near me and sometimes the delay almost reached 2 seconds. Hopefully the European servers are having teething problems because I was expecting a lot more from the online brawl experience.

 

[Robiin]

Okay.. From what I can tell, having played NTSC for about 3-4 months, and now switching to PAL:

•Chain Grab with Dedede and Falco is in!
•Lucas Wavebounce and SUPER-jump with PKFire+jump is still IN!
•Please confirm: Falco Laser Lock is in!
•Glide Toss is still in!
•Stop momentum when holding and letting go of Down on ctrl-stick with moving platforms is still here!
•Marth sh dbl fair is still in!
•Loading in menus are alot slower!
•Still online lag
•Falcos frame skipping lasers is still in, and therefor also SHDL

 

[Pluvia's other account]

Okay.. From what I can tell, having played NTSC for about 3-4 months, and now switching to PAL:

So basically, nothing has been changed.

Btw everyone, the European servers have been up for a while now, they're not new. And lag is based on your connection quality, not distance.