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Smash Cadet
We can go down the list of alternatives:
- the coveted $70 Hori Mini Pad
-the "tape trick" (it was worth a shot, right?)
- buy these replacements: http://www.nintendorepairshop.com/products/34-Nintendo-64-
N64/1821-N64-Controller-Thumbstick-Repair-Part---New---GC-style/ (these don't
work well at all for Smash! Lag and short range-of-motion makes power moves next to
impossible)
-buy crappy 3rd party controller, corrupt your game saves
-buy less crappy Tomee brand controller, continue corrrupting game saves
-wire and mount a wii/gc stick into a crappy 3rd party controller
-wire, mount, and-program-a-microcontroller-for a wii/gc joystick into an OEM controller
(a la kylejw, et. al... http://forums.benheck.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=39024)
If you're like me, you've tried all or nearly all of the above options. I've been tearing apart my 64 pads since I was 13. My personal favorite was the last fix I listed. I purchased a pair from kylejw, and one of them still works.
I set out to make my own Wii --> N64 controllers. After several months of experimenting with and bricking several controllers, I have streamlined a way to install Wii classic controller joysticks in OEM N64 controllers without making any electrical modifications or additions. Mine is strictly a mechanical fix.
The TL;DR of what I do is basically dremeling, cutting, and lots and lots of gluing of very small mechanical pieces. It cost me many joysticks learning how to glue such tiny moving pieces and still keep them moving free yet strong.
Anyway, today I finished my sixth non-prototype controller. I've got a system down, and a big box full of used N64 controllers to keep me busy. I'm currently waiting on another shipment of Wii controllers to cannibalize.
I'd love to make a guide for everyone to make these. Beware, though, It took me several hours to make one my first time, and even that was after I garbage-glued several of them. In the meantime, right after these finish the testing phase ( ), I'll be selling the ones I make. I'll put them on youtube here soon.
The one issue some may have with my controllers is that I decided to leave the octagonal gate out, to achieve maximum range-of-motion. It doesn't impede their performance, and frankly it makes the process of building them much faster.
I've got a price range in mind, but I'd like to hear some early feedback on what they'd be worth to you, and what you think of the project i general.
Also, since there is glue involved, inevitably there will be worries about breakage. So whatever I do sell will have a 30 money back guarantee, you just pay to ship it back. I'm confident in the sturdyness of these sticks, you can crank pretty hard on them although it's something I try to avoid and wouldn't recommend. I use a "plastic welder" epoxy that is drillable and sandable. It's insanely strong, and I use insane amounts of it. Just don't throw it against a wall and it should be fine. But yes, with my current design one could push hard enough in any direction to pop the joystick off (in theory). I did experiment some with torquing the entire apparatus down with steel wire in addition to the glue, with moderate success. It took a lot longer than I anticipated though and seemed to be overkill, so it's not part of the final design. One of my early prototypes used onlly super glue, which eventually broke free in the heat of a goldeneye match. This epoxy stuff is a different story. I'm letting ordinary folks test these to see if they hold up. EDIT: see my glue test videos further down in the thread
UPDATE 9/26/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bygwvI0S-DU&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk2n-Auee90&feature=plcp (sorry, still no smash)
Accepting orders.
90 day warranty for malfunction/breakage, 30 days for any reason at all.
See more details in the next post:
- the coveted $70 Hori Mini Pad
-the "tape trick" (it was worth a shot, right?)
- buy these replacements: http://www.nintendorepairshop.com/products/34-Nintendo-64-
N64/1821-N64-Controller-Thumbstick-Repair-Part---New---GC-style/ (these don't
work well at all for Smash! Lag and short range-of-motion makes power moves next to
impossible)
-buy crappy 3rd party controller, corrupt your game saves
-buy less crappy Tomee brand controller, continue corrrupting game saves
-wire and mount a wii/gc stick into a crappy 3rd party controller
-wire, mount, and-program-a-microcontroller-for a wii/gc joystick into an OEM controller
(a la kylejw, et. al... http://forums.benheck.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=39024)
If you're like me, you've tried all or nearly all of the above options. I've been tearing apart my 64 pads since I was 13. My personal favorite was the last fix I listed. I purchased a pair from kylejw, and one of them still works.
I set out to make my own Wii --> N64 controllers. After several months of experimenting with and bricking several controllers, I have streamlined a way to install Wii classic controller joysticks in OEM N64 controllers without making any electrical modifications or additions. Mine is strictly a mechanical fix.
The TL;DR of what I do is basically dremeling, cutting, and lots and lots of gluing of very small mechanical pieces. It cost me many joysticks learning how to glue such tiny moving pieces and still keep them moving free yet strong.
Anyway, today I finished my sixth non-prototype controller. I've got a system down, and a big box full of used N64 controllers to keep me busy. I'm currently waiting on another shipment of Wii controllers to cannibalize.
I'd love to make a guide for everyone to make these. Beware, though, It took me several hours to make one my first time, and even that was after I garbage-glued several of them. In the meantime, right after these finish the testing phase ( ), I'll be selling the ones I make. I'll put them on youtube here soon.
The one issue some may have with my controllers is that I decided to leave the octagonal gate out, to achieve maximum range-of-motion. It doesn't impede their performance, and frankly it makes the process of building them much faster.
I've got a price range in mind, but I'd like to hear some early feedback on what they'd be worth to you, and what you think of the project i general.
UPDATE 9/26/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bygwvI0S-DU&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk2n-Auee90&feature=plcp (sorry, still no smash)
Accepting orders.
90 day warranty for malfunction/breakage, 30 days for any reason at all.
See more details in the next post: