Koopa Questions: a Bowser Q&A Thread

[B!squick]

How often? I don't know. I haven't really kept up with my "Rise and Fall of Bowser Mains" class. XD

 

[MrEh]

Bowser isn't Pit. He has AT that are actually good.

 

[Metatitan]

Bowser isn't Pit. He has AT that are actually good.

QFT

/10char

 

[Lezard]

Bowser isn't Pit. He has AT that are actually good.

i know, thats why i want to how often or you can just use the example i use in my previous post

 

[B!squick]

I still don't follow the how often bit. You mean how often it's used?

 

[Lezard]

I still don't follow the how often bit. You mean how often it's used?

YEAH, for instance, for every 10 moves you do how many of them would be a AT

 

[Vex Kasrani]

YEAH, for instance, for every 10 moves you do how many of them would be a AT

Every other move for me because I constantly WoK(Wall of Klaw aka Klaw jumping)

 

[Lezard]

Every other move for me because I constantly WoK(Wall of Klaw aka Klaw jumping)

So is this accurate ?

A high level Bowser Play style

Advance Technique
50%-55%
Basic Technique
45%-50%

 

[Cassius.]

yeah...basically, because for me, unless i get ***** in the air in a matchup, im always klawing and looking for grab releases. i really dont like using bowser like how hes meant to be [like a tank..well thats at least how i think hes meant to be]. i like being mega agressive :]

well, for a question, do you guys think our grab release game is a(n) advanced trick(s) or basic knowledge?

 

[JOE!]

I think theyre advanced tricks based on what you do with them

EDIT

Question: has anyone done any testing to see what Dthrow and Uthrow can lead into?

For example, I can usually sneak a Boozer Bomb after a Uthrow, and firebreath after a Dthrow...

 

[B!squick]

Depends on who you're playing against, the person, etc. You can't really really break it down into an across the board thing for everyone. It's good to play defensive and on the ground with Bowser, using Fortress OoS as opposed to the more aggressive play style that everyone seems to have. I mean, if you're playing Bowser the "right" way you would be doing very little WoK.

As for what DThrow and UThrow can lead into, I don't know. Depends on the situation and whatnot. UThrow is a fixed knockback, but they can just DI away or whatever.

 

[Lezard]

Depends on who you're playing against, the person, etc. You can't really really break it down into an across the board thing for everyone. It's good to play defensive and on the ground with Bowser, using Fortress OoS as opposed to the more aggressive play style that everyone seems to have. I mean, if you're playing Bowser the "right" way you would be doing very little WoK.

As for what DThrow and UThrow can lead into, I don't know. Depends on the situation and whatnot. UThrow is a fixed knockback, but they can just DI away or whatever.

ok i understand and i got what i was looking for , howeever i want to created a thread with all the characters plystyle using the example i gave earlier so beginner have a idea how they should fight if they want to com. on a high level. What do you guys think?

 

[Flayl]

Against DK and characters below 15%, since grab releases don't work/pay off, I Down throw and try to follow up with firebreath.

Following a UThrow with a bowser bomb is intersting, I hadn't thought of that. Something to catch people unaware with.

 

[B!squick]

ok i understand and i got what i was looking for , howeever i want to created a thread with all the characters plystyle using the example i gave earlier so beginner have a idea how they should fight if they want to com. on a high level. What do you guys think?

Sounds good, though it'd probably be better to do play style types. Like defensive, aggressive, campy, whatever. And then have a list of moves to use, moves to avoid, and situational moves.

 

[Lezard]

Sounds good, though it'd probably be better to do play style types. Like defensive, aggressive, campy, whatever. And then have a list of moves to use, moves to avoid, and situational moves.

I never wanted to go in dept with it, but thats a good idea especially for the Pit board

thanks

 

[B!squick]

I never wanted to go in dept with it, but thats a good idea especially for the Pit board

thanks

Not to put down your idea, but it just seems more useful than percentages, lol.

 

[Lezard]

Not to put down your idea, but it just seems more useful than percentages, lol.

actually, i was just exploring my thoughts on it and you are right, i am going to go with both of them anyway

 

[Dementophobic]

How come sometimes Bowser's Ftilt will beat Meta's tornado/drill and sometimes it doesn't? Same with Bowser's downB versus tornado, why does it only sometimes work?

Also what should I do to an MK that likes to spam his loop on a flat map like FD? Try and airdodge down?

 

[Cassius.]

Uh, I'm gonna have to go with maybe either the spacing of the FTilt isn't right, or you catch the MK at the start of the nado/drill, where it is weakest, and sometimes, you catch it in the middle where it is strongest. The Bowser Bomb...well, if you hit the top of the tornado, it's done. A Dair from above or an attack from the very bottom should take care of it.

Also, uh towards the end, does the nado's priority weaken? If you know about Drill Rush too I guess you can answer that also. I don't feel like testing <.<

With the Down Throw Fire-breath...I haven't really tried that... I have tried the Up Throw Bowser Bomb, because most of the time it does work for a good mindgame...although, if you miss, you're open for ALOT of punishment. Don't rely on it too much...to be honest most of the time I just go for a FAir if they DI to the right of me, or if I see they airdodge, I wait for that, and Bowser Bomb/FAir if they're too far...

BTW, does Bowser's Klaw beat Nado? I remember Gen [LiquidGen] saying something about that...I know it's in the same conditions as FTilt [well most moves of a character beat nado at the startup of it], but I just need clarification.

If they DI so that they end upwards, I try to be fast and UpAir, but I fail at that now, so I just wait for the airdodge and...well, my options are usually pretty open from there, lol.

I have this sudden fascination with NAir btw... <.< And that useless, old and situational Forward Throw CG...I doubt it only works on Marth, but either way, it is pretty useless. :L

Long post eww...

 

[B!squick]

It doesn't work on Marth, the CPU doesn't know about false hitstun.

 

[pacmansays]

Sorry if this is a dumb question but I recently managed to master the infinite klawhopping for Bowser but despite this I find it hard to use it in real matches..

What and where can I use the move tactically to my advantage? As right now I can't see much reason for using it

 

[EnragedMathlete]

Klawhopping is a huge part of bowser's game. You can use it to space effectively or you can approach with it. It's great for baiting people and for crossups. Don't use it so much when your opponent has a projectile... Take a peek at some of the bowser videos posted in the video thread. Ninjalink plays a super aggressive bowser and he uses klawhopping a lot.

 

[IxxI]

Why is Bowser so unpopular?
I mean, he's at the top of the character boards.
:D

 

[pacmansays]

Klawhopping is a huge part of bowser's game. You can use it to space effectively or you can approach with it. It's great for baiting people and for crossups. Don't use it so much when your opponent has a projectile... Take a peek at some of the bowser videos posted in the video thread. Ninjalink plays a super aggressive bowser and he uses klawhopping a lot.

Okay, thank you very much

 

[MrEh]

Why is Bowser so unpopular?

Because he's Bowser. lol

 

[IxxI]

Because he's Bowser. lol

But he has pretty good grab releases.
Didn't Sliq teach you guys how to play Bowser?
:D

 

[B!squick]

Nah. He wrote a guide for Ganon, but couldn't be bothered to support poor Bowser.

 

[IxxI]

Doesn't he play Bowser, though?

 

[B!squick]

Yeah. Last I heard.

 

[Overclassed]

Will bowser always be doomed to playing the second match of my set?

I hate not being able to use my main, but the constant threat of DDD loling all over me is devastating.

 

[Hobobloke]

Call double blind character slection or just be hardcore and use him anyway.

 

[Overclassed]

Man, I never considered being hardcore :=

It seems so obvious now!

P:

 

[Hobobloke]

It's Bowser, being hardcore and badass will come naturally to you.

 

[Overclassed]

I love the Bowser Boards. x]

How many Bowser mains are there, really? I know of like- 4.

In the country world.

Not counting SEAGULL- Mr. I-main-bowser-but-only-use-wolf D:

 

[Hobobloke]

Theres about 10-15 regulars here on the bowser boards, and I'm the only Bowser in Australia.

 

[Nidtendofreak]

I saw someone so hard core at FS6, he used Bowser against D3.

Of course, D3's infinite was banned......

 

[Hobobloke]

My doubles partner Jupz plays D3 and when I verse him in tournament I usually play Bowser anyway, without infinite it's not horrible but still pretty bad, if necessary though i pull my G&W out.

 

[Cassius.]

Lol when I play D3's like most people said the infinite is either banned and whatnot...but it still feels kinda stupid to play against D3 with Bowser anyway...although I still do it.

The only real character I have for most of my issues is R.O.B., and he does pretty darn well. Although I think I may also need someone who doesn't get CG'd by the penguin just for safety measures ;-; And I just played like 2 IC mainers yesterday, with Bowser [so right there you know I was a moron T_T]

...it was Wi-Fi so I doubt it matters, but Jesus Christ I don't think I've ever klawhopped for that long :x

 

[udov]

Hey, just wanted to know, how often do you Bowser worshippers use wavebounce firebreath during your matches?
Little by little it has turned out to be one of my favorite move, just because it can change the outcome of a match, or just crush the opponent even more than usual, it depends ;p
I wanted to know what you think of this move, if it's as reliable to you as it is to me, etc...

 

[B!squick]

I do it by accident when I'm Klaw Hopping sometimes. XD I don't do it on purpose, but if it works for you, have at.