Mister the Wizard
Smash Apprentice
So as we all know, Ganon's Ledge Hop (dropping off the ledge and instantly double jumping, often times invincible) is really short and lands almost perfectly on the stage. That's why you can do grounded Down-b's from the ledge, it's why edgedashing with Ganon is easy, and it also makes ledge stalling very simple. However, I find it really difficult to do a Ledge Hop Up-Air and REGRAB the LEDGE. It can be done, I just can't work out a consistent method. Maybe I just have to get the speed and timing down, but it is possible to drop off, double jump, instantly Up-Air, and grab the ledge again. Of course, you can just do the up air then up b again, but that means your up air has to be well timed as you can't spam it, so if you miss you're in a bad spot. Being able to do this is really really useful for edge gaurding, as it allows you to do an invincible up air, which has a million hitboxes and covers a ton of low options. This technique stops tethers, diagonal recoveries, and when timed well horizontal recoveries. The up air even goes on stage a bit, covering even more ground. What I want to know is how to do this more consistently, if there is a way. The fastest way I can work out is to tilt the stick down for the non-fastfall drop off then instantly hit x, then smash up, then hit a. Smashing down then smashing up, when done fast enough, works occasionally, and I've tried tilting down, then tilting up and hitting z. Claw works as well, but I don't play claw. Any suggestions would be awesome, and like I said, it may just be a matter of timing and practice. If thats the case, then we can just discuss this techniques applications