Lucario's D-tilt

[Raiken]

First off, hello Lucario boards : o

I know i don't post here very often, and some of you probably haven't even seen me around on these boards, but i've got some questions.

What are some great uses for Lucario's D-tilt? It's probably the only move i dont use very often aside from DT, and i'm trying to learn how to use it a little more. Does it have greater priority than some other character's dash attacks (MK and Snake in particular), or does it cancel or even get outprioritized?

Also, what are some uses for it that could lead to combos or be used as part of a combo?

 

[Zujira]

At low %s it can combo into itself, not sure if it's true or not, but it works. You can also use it to pop people up into the air. Jab Jab ->d-tilt works occasionally too.

 

[Fizzle]

Dtilt is really, really fast. It's Luc's fastest tilt, and it's only a few frames slower than his jab. Plus it's got decent range and I'm fairly sure it has IASA frames too. But, besides that, dtilt's only real use is spacing. Use dtilt when you're too close to ftilt and too far away to jab. Think of it as an emergency measure when a Falco or Meta gets in too close.

I've tried many times, but dtilt will rarely lead into anything. Sometimes at low % you can land a couple dtilts in a row or a dtilt-jab-jab-whatever, but neither are reliable. Most of the time dtilt will knock them too far away to follow with aerials.

Oh, and if you're looking to play competitively, I'd recommend not using DT at all. Jabs, ftilt, utilt, grabs, and fsmash are all you really need on the ground.

 

[Raiken]

Dtilt is really, really fast. It's Luc's fastest tilt, and it's only a few frames slower than his jab. Plus it's got decent range and I'm fairly sure it has IASA frames too. But, besides that, dtilt's only real use is spacing. Use dtilt when you're too close to ftilt and too far away to jab. Think of it as an emergency measure when a Falco or Meta gets in too close.

I've tried many times, but dtilt will rarely lead into anything. Sometimes at low % you can land a couple dtilts in a row or a dtilt-jab-jab-whatever, but neither are reliable. Most of the time dtilt will knock them too far away to follow with aerials.

Oh, and if you're looking to play competitively, I'd recommend not using DT at all. Jabs, ftilt, utilt, grabs, and fsmash are all you really need on the ground.

D-tilt's speed is why i'm trying to learn how to use it a little more. It's got a little more range than i realized, and the few times i did manage to hit with it... i wasn't really expecting it lol. The main thing i'm trying to figure out is if it can stop dash attacks, but since i don't have anything other than one of the CPU to rely on.. i can't really try testing much.

I've gone to two tournaments now and played against some relatively skilled people, and its taught me to not use DT almost at all. (I didn't use it much to begin with, but now i use it very sparingly, just.. a few times a match, like one or two) It seems like a better option in the air apposed to the ground from what i've gathered.

 

[phi1ny3]

I personally use it for spacing, low % strings (doesn't happen often, tho), and the occasional edgeguard.

 

[tedward2000]

I use it on those awkward leveled stages, (like Yoshi's Island) cause it has a good range and with the angle, it tends to hit a bit more/ is unexpected.
Or just Edge guarding.
nothing much else.
-t2

 

[CSTIK]

It's pretty fast to go in and out. Usually spamming it works (against non-MKs) against a shield because they think they can get away or hit you before the second one for some reason...but they always get hit by it. You have to time the escape well to not get hit by it. If you want a video of what I mean, then I'll upload a match if I can find one where I used it to do that.

 

[LordoftheMorning]

It can be used to really screw up someone's approach from the ground. I'm pretty sure it will out prioritize most dash attacks. I don't use it too often, but when I do, I don't regret it.

 

[G-Beast]

i find at mid low %'s you can combo a dtilt->fsmash

 

[Nodrak]

jab > jab > dtilt > fair > nair > jab > jab > dtilt > fair > nair and repeat until nair knocks them too far away... or they're g&w and recovers almost instantly

 

[manhunter098]

I dont really know how exactly I use it, but I tend to do it a lot to punish stuff if I am not sure how much time I have before my opponent will be able to shield or dodge again. It also works very nicely against opponents who like to cling to the edge for too long.

All in all I probably use d-tilt more than any other of Lucarios tilts.

 

[Raiken]

Alright, thanks for the input. I'll try practicing with it when i get the chance.

 

[CSTIK]

Alright, thanks for the input. I'll try practicing with it when i get the chance.

A video demonstrating two ways I use Dtilt. Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxY0Ekl__eQ

Mainly it has good range and speed with more power than Utilt. See my above comment

 

[Timbers]

I'll use it for edgeguarding, but thats about it.

 

[Greenpoe]

...am I the only one who uses it for power? For those occasions when you're at 100, and they're 150--KO! I mean, there are times when your opponent might live to 160 or 170 or higher, but don't let them! Our fast d-tilt can KO them!...IF you manage to use it on a platform, then you're golden.

 

[Hylian]

Why D-tilt, when you can Fsmash?


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/Azen

 

[Greenpoe]

Why D-tilt, when you can Fsmash?


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/Azen

D-tilt is fast!

 

[Kitamerby]

D-tilt is fast!

Dtilt kills like 50% later!

 

[Samuelson]

Jabs, ftilt, utilt, grabs, and fsmash are all you really need on the ground.

Dude, you forgot Aura Sphere man. I would say that AS is pretty essential to Lucario's game.

 

[phi1ny3]

Dtilt is alright for determining good space sometimes. I also like the angle it makes at low %'s.

 

[Fizzle]

Dude, you forgot Aura Sphere man. I would say that AS is pretty essential to Lucario's game.

*facepalm* How could I forget AS? Thanks for the reminder.

Dtilt kills like 50% later!

Well over 50% later. Luc at max aura can kill around 70 some with a fresh fsmash. Dtilt won't start killing till over 150%.

 

[Aura Power]

I would like to say FD lip spike. Granting they're on the ledge 0.1 of a second after their invincibility frames wear out. It's rare to do that too. I almost never get it to happen

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

It's fast and unexpected.

That's what I use it for. It's not a great combo starter or even flows into combos well, but it's worth a use here and there to mix it up.