kaak
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no the sweetspot fair is guaranteedDo you have time to air dodge it after the release?
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no the sweetspot fair is guaranteedDo you have time to air dodge it after the release?
Probably the same case as with 0ssyup yup
though i heard a rumor if you buffer the up b, it won't tipper fair, but i'm not sure if it's true
Game & Watch can still bair Marth and MK's shields, he just needs to space turtle at its tip and be retreating once making contact. Each hit against their shield produces subtle knockback (even one hit will do), that along with DI'ing away will influences DS/SL's reach. I've tested this frame-by-frame, and G&W actually has some wiggle room, he doesn't have to be perfect to pull this off.
Too, spacing the turtle on a shield is very distinct opposed to standard spacing. You have to keep in mind that the shield *usually* has a larger hurtbox than the actual character, the knockback from each hit, and retreating into the ground at an angle (slides G&W across the floor, and farther away from his opponent while suffering from lag).