MDL0 files from Non-Brawl games

[luigiman1928]

Hey RandomTBush can you help me with something? When i replaced the Smash Ball with the Item Box from Mario Kart it appears bigger than Hyrule temple itself! and when i actually hit the thing itself it freezes! why does it do this, and how can i fix it?

 

[GP&B]

Yes, the animations from PokéPark are CHR0s, but the frame count and unknown variables need to be corrected.

Ah, on the topic of animations, would the animations from ToS:Dawn (if they're CHR0's for that matter) suffer from the same problem as the models or is that completely unrelated to the bone structure issue that the models have?
I was actually observing videos of Lloyd in action in the second ToS and his animations were practically identical even for a less chibi/more anime'd model. If those could be hexed in (and if you could figure out how if you haven't before and/or teach us the process), that would be fantastic.

 

[MonkUnit]

I have a problem and was wondering if anyone could help. I downloaded the entire ISO of Castlevania: Judgement and extracted it and everything. Inside several folders were brres files. I opened the brres files in brawlbox. It had a mdl0 in every brres file, although brawlbox gets the error window when trying to preview the model.

Brawlbox's mdl0 has the Def box on the right has this:

All of the extracted folders/files were exported to the desktop folder "Castlevania Judgement."

The .brres file I opened was in C:\Ken\Desktop\Castlevania Judgement\Extracted ISO\chr\sna\0000.brres

Unknown 1: 2116840
Unknown 2: 64
NumVertices: -76
NumFaces: 2
Unknown 3: 0
NumNodes: 23565
Version: 0
Unknown 4: 15789
BoxMin: (8.786141E-43, 2.369356E-38, 8.96831E-44)
BoxMax: (-0.858546, -0.100947, -1.237407)

What do I have to change with these numbers so that I can view it in brawlbox? The list in the OP says that mdl0 files from Castlevania: Judgement just need to have their model size x11. Can I change any of these numbers in the mdl0 Def properties so that I may view the mdl0 in the model previewer? Or is it just not possible to use any mdl0 from Castlevania: Judgement?

EDIT: I think the mdl0 needs to be hexed in order to be viewed in brawlbox. However, every mdl0 from Castlevania: Judgment are absolutely nameless. It is just displayed as 0000.brres>3DModels(NW4R)>mdl0 (name is " ") there isn't a name for the mdl0.

 

[OizenX]

Alright then.
Also, when you release the stages, can I put them in the OP of the Naruto thread?

Sure.

But I plan to make it into a you tube video.

 

[Zeruel21]

EDIT: I think the mdl0 needs to be hexed in order to be viewed in brawlbox. However, every mdl0 from Castlevania: Judgment are absolutely nameless. It is just displayed as 0000.brres>3DModels(NW4R)>mdl0 (name is " ") there isn't a name for the mdl0.

Did you not even read the OP? Yes, you have to hex them for previewing and use in game. Also, most games don't give models anything beyond an asset number.

 

[RandomTBush]

Hey RandomTBush can you help me with something? When i replaced the Smash Ball with the Item Box from Mario Kart it appears bigger than Hyrule temple itself! and when i actually hit the thing itself it freezes! why does it do this, and how can i fix it?

I'll take a look at it later on tonight. Can't guarantee that I know how to fix it, but I can try.

Ah, on the topic of animations, would the animations from ToS:Dawn (if they're CHR0's for that matter) suffer from the same problem as the models or is that completely unrelated to the bone structure issue that the models have?
I was actually observing videos of Lloyd in action in the second ToS and his animations were practically identical even for a less chibi/more anime'd model. If those could be hexed in (and if you could figure out how if you haven't before and/or teach us the process), that would be fantastic.

I can check to see if they have CHR0s... but I have to find them, first. And the problem is actually with the bone structure, but I still haven't looked into it yet since I've been working on other things. :x

EDIT: I think the mdl0 needs to be hexed in order to be viewed in brawlbox. However, every mdl0 from Castlevania: Judgment are absolutely nameless. It is just displayed as 0000.brres>3DModels(NW4R)>mdl0 (name is " ") there isn't a name for the mdl0.

Correcting the header also fixes the model's string so that it's in the right spot (so that it won't be blank).

 

[MonkUnit]

Did you not even read the OP? Yes, you have to hex them for previewing and use in game. Also, most games don't give models anything beyond an asset number.

Sorry. I skimmed the OP until I got to the list of games that have mdl0. I was too excited to see if I could load something from castlevania: judgement into brawl. I am sorry that I did not fully read the OP. I am starting to try and see if I can hex the brres file to view it in brawlbox. Sorry for the trouble. :[

 

[luigiman1928]

Has anyone looked inside Wiiware games? Maybe they use MDL0 too. (DR. MARIO FTW)

 

[FrozenHobo]

Has anyone looked inside Wiiware games? Maybe they use MDL0 too. (DR. MARIO FTW)

or... LOSTWINDS!
O____________O

 

[RandomTBush]

Sorry. I skimmed the OP until I got to the list of games that have mdl0. I was too excited to see if I could load something from castlevania: judgement into brawl. I am sorry that I did not fully read the OP. I am starting to try and see if I can hex the brres file to view it in brawlbox. Sorry for the trouble. :[

If you want to make things a whole lot easier with hexing, use Fortwaffles's programs at the beginning of the post. They do most of the work for you. (Step 5 of the tutorial may still need to be done, though, depending on the model.)

And WiiWare games could potentially have MDL0s, but they may be compressed. When my younger brother lets me use his computer, I'll try emulating one and checking the memory for any MDL0 tags.

 

[luigiman1928]

HELL YEAH. Ok looking inside Dr. Mario WAD right now..... (what tool can i extract WAD's with?)

And if ti help RandomT, i used Fortwaffles program to convert it.

 

[Bionate]

im wondering with the condition listed in the OP about mario&sonic@the olympic winter games, would it be possible to use the auto hex editing program to get metal sonic in brawl with the usual method?
(aren't ya glad i didn't say shadow?)

 

[MonkUnit]

If you want to make things a whole lot easier with hexing, use Fortwaffles's programs at the beginning of the post. They do most of the work for you. (Step 5 of the tutorial may still need to be done, though, depending on the model.)

Thank you. I was trying to do steps 1-5 my self when I realized that the numbers in the side column were not the same as yours. Fortwaffle's program worked perfectly. I was able to view the model after using his program and AFAIK did not need to do steps 5 and beyond. Unfortunately, however, the main thing I am trying to get out of the Castlevania: judgement ISO were stages, because I am better at making stages rather than making every animation needed by scratch.

 

[Tsuyoshio]

hey what ever happened to viewtiful joe

 

[luigiman1928]

Ok i extracted the Dr. mario wad and the only thing i see that looks import to game play is GAME.dat.... How do i extract it now?..... EDIT: GAME.dat is a BRSAR.

 

[diosensakiara]

hey what ever happened to viewtiful joe

I would love to know the same thing as well.

 

[OizenX]

I'm having issues with the mdl0 header of one brres, I follow the guide and the model corrupts itself. Its a small yet important part for a stage I'm importing.
http://www.mediafire.com/?vynotuieozk

Could some one please take a look at it.

 

[Shonrrati]

I'm having issues with the mdl0 header of one brres, I follow the guide and the model corrupts itself. Its a small yet important part for a stage I'm importing.
http://www.mediafire.com/?vynotuieozk

Could some one please take a look at it.

Here you go, http://www.mediafire.com/?mdne2iemnhj

still need to edit materials and polygons though

 

[digiholic]

Anyone know what might cause a model placed over toad's model in Peach's FitMotionEtc to always appear in the center of the stage instead of Peach's hands?

 

[Grey Belnades]

I would love to know the same thing as well.

It's available for download at KC:MM

http://kc-mm.com/

Note however, it's only a model edit, it's doesn't come with a moveset or PSA.

 

[JoeGrandma]

Anyone know what might cause a model placed over toad's model in Peach's FitMotionEtc to always appear in the center of the stage instead of Peach's hands?

Did you perhaps try to fix it using that thing Eldiran did to attach Ganon's sword to his hand?

...Has anyone checked Twilight Princess for mdl0's? It's pretty popluar (obviously), so I would've assumed that it's been checked, but I can't see the results anywhere. And I would very much appreciate a Zant.

 

[OizenX]

Anyone know what might cause a model placed over toad's model in Peach's FitMotionEtc to always appear in the center of the stage instead of Peach's hands?

I think you have to edit the XYZ coordinates manually in both the still frame and animation.

Just a guess.

 

[KingDryBones]

i'm tired of waiting for you people to answer me...

@ pikazz - I wanna help with new textures for Dry Bones!
@ luigiman1928 - I want those models i mentioned to you in a pm please!

please reply back to me in a pm please... i been waiting too long for you guys to answer me!

 

[digiholic]

Did you perhaps try to fix it using that thing Eldiran did to attach Ganon's sword to his hand?

Where could I find that?

 

[Shonrrati]

Anyone know what might cause a model placed over toad's model in Peach's FitMotionEtc to always appear in the center of the stage instead of Peach's hands?

well, I just got curious and tried replacing a dragon ball with toad. All I did was rename the bones and it stayed in her hands

 

[digiholic]

well, I just got curious and tried replacing a dragon ball with toad. All I did was rename the bones and it stayed in her hands

As a Dragon Ball, I assume it had less bones than Toad? I thought that might have been my problem, but I figured it would be fine since Toad's just an article...

 

[Shonrrati]

As a Dragon Ball, I assume it had less bones than Toad? I thought that might have been my problem, but I figured it would be fine since Toad's just an article...

I just actually renamed the center bone of the dragon ball RotN, That way she would hold the dragonball or whatever object in the center correctly. Everything else can named be whatever. you only gotta change the one.

 

[digiholic]

I just actually renamed the center bone of the dragon ball RotN, That way she would hold the dragonball or whatever object in the center correctly. Everything else can named be whatever. you only gotta change the one.

Didn't seem to work.
How many bones does that Dragonball have?

EDIT: Just notice that one leg is right on target. Gonna check to see what that leg did right that the rest didn't.

 

[Shonrrati]

Didn't seem to work.
How many bones does that Dragonball have?

EDIT: Just notice that one leg is right on target. Gonna check to see what that leg did right that the rest didn't.

well the dragon ball only has 4 bones, I figure if you have a larger object your gonna have to rename more than one bone.

 

[digiholic]

well the dragon ball only has 4 bones, I figure if you have a larger object your gonna have to rename more than one bone.

Okay, at least I know it's not the bones. You know what that means? Trial-and-error! Yaaaay!

EDIT: Okay, I notice the left leg (the one that works) has the same BoneIndex as Toad's HaveN bone. That's got to have something to do with something. Maybe if I hex the root bone to have that index...?

EDIT 2: Still no worky. Same problem. WHY IS ONLY ONE LEG LISTENING?
Maybe if I were to tweak the bone structure with Fortwaffles's tool to make the bone itself the root...

EDIT 3: GOD****INGDAMMIT
WHY WON'T THIS WORK?

 

[TommoPuppy]

I know I'm a bajillion pages late for some of these but you guys are too dang fast for me. D: And I still wanted to share my pointless insight.

Yeah, the high-poly one should look like this once the MDL0s get rebuilt into one model:

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7963/classicamy.jpg

Disclaimer: THIS IS A PHOTOSHOP. I didn't actually rebuild the model, I'm just showing an example of the end result.

Wouldn't it be better to animate her high-poly body and then add the head(s?) as props, like Brawl Sonic? This could save you so much time and effort later and the end result would allow you to have similar mouth movements to Sonic. Are there any other heads for Amy in Winter Olympics or just that one?

Alright, if this doesn't prove that I understand the MDL0 format, I don't know what will.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/SSBB-VeteranJiggly1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/SSBB-VeteranJiggly2.jpg

Download link is right here. It'll only work over Jigglypuff's sleep hat, as that's what I rebuilt it over.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3yw3zly1znz

God yes. Your mining hat's great too.

I know it's not on the list, but has anyone checked Okami? It was a port from PS2, but other Capcom games on the wii use mdl0, so it might use it...

Possible, since a lot of the Wii version had to be built from the ground up.

lol if we do import a 3ds model someday, Obama's head (and ONLY that) would be WIN XD

Obamandross?

 

[Shiroyu]

I'm looking through the Bit.Trip games, and they all use mdl0! When Bit.Trip Runner comes out we might be able to get a "proper" Commander Video. Not to mention some hardcore awesome stages... (Though the backgrounds from Beat and Core have potential to be amazing.)

However, I have no clue how to extract the brres' from the main files, which are in the .app extention.

Edit: Oh God. SBCG4AP. CHECKING.

Edit 2: Wait, I'm being stupid, I have a .app extractor.

Edit 3: SBCG4AP does not use mdl0. I guess this would be for the better, I'm not sure if Brawl would be able to handle having Strong Bad playable. The disc might explode.

However, I did discover that My Life as a King and My Life as a Darklord also use mdl0. Chime, anyone?

Edit the final before sleeping: ...Chime's breasts have their own bones. Jiggle "physics" = very yes. Also, I have found bikini Chime.

 

[n64billy]

i'm Looking Through The Bit.trip Games, And They All Use Mdl0! When Bit.trip Runner Comes Out We Might Be Able To Get A "proper" Commander Video. Not To Mention Some Hardcore Awesome Stages... (though The Backgrounds From Beat And Core Have Potential To Be Amazing.)

However, I Have No Clue How To Extract The Brres' From The Main Files, Which Are In The .app Extention.

Edit: Oh God. Sbcg4ap. Checking.

Edit 2: Wait, I'm Being Stupid, I Have A .app Extractor.

Edit 3: Sbcg4ap Does Not Use Mdl0. I Guess This Would Be For The Better, I'm Not Sure If Brawl Would Be Able To Handle Having Strong Bad Playable. The Disc Might Explode.

However, I Did Discover That My Life As A King And My Life As A Darklord Also Use Mdl0. Chime, Anyone?

Edit The Final Before Sleeping: ...chime's Breasts Have Their Own Bones. Jiggle "physics" = Very Yes. Also, I Have Found Bikini Chime.

Your Head Asplode!
*Runs off to check for those MDL0's in MLaaDL*

 

[shock44]

Your Head Asplode!
*Runs off to check for those MDL0's in MLaaDL*

LOL, I actually do plan on putting in Homestarrunner characters when the model builder is done.

 

[FrozenHobo]

whatever happened with this?

 

[Overdrive64]

LOL, I actually do plan on putting in Homestarrunner characters when the model builder is done.

Trogdor for Brawl!!!

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

whatever happened with this?

Whatever happened to

NOT QUOTING PICTURES?

 

[FrozenHobo]

Whatever happened to

NOT QUOTING PICTURES?

my pe*is happened. get over it.

 

[Shiroyu]

(My Life as a Darklord DLC.)

Oh, I also tried a few more WiiWare games.

Muscle March: No? It... doesn't even use extentions.
NyxQuest: Nope.
Tales of Monkey Island: Nope.
Bomberman Blast: Uses mdl0, but they're in .arcs.

Edit: Is there a tutorial somewhere to hex chr0s so that they aren't blank names?

 

[ds22]

(My Life as a Darklord DLC.)

Oh, I also tried a few more WiiWare games.

Muscle March: No? It... doesn't even use extentions.
NyxQuest: Nope.
Tales of Monkey Island: Nope.
Bomberman Blast: Uses mdl0, but they're in .arcs.

Edit: Is there a tutorial somewhere to hex chr0s so that they aren't blank names?

Really interesting.