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"Medical Records"- Dr. Mario Video/Critique Thread!

arncakes

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Hey fellow Docs! I started a mini series on my channel where I showcase different interesting Dr. Mario setups, combos, etc. in short < 30 second videos. I only have 2 so far but I plan to make more. If anyone has any interesting ideas for another episode, let me know! I'm always open for suggestions (and I can't do all this labbing myself).

Hopefully the series can spark some ideas or come in handy.

Here are the first 2:
 
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Misinko

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R8 my For Glory Doc:

https://youtu.be/cBbtThsZnIQ

The footage is somewhat old though, so I hope I've improved a little since then. Unfortunately I don't have anything more recent, gonna try to work on that some.

At least the last kill is fun to watch.
 

Eight_SixtyFour

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https://www.twitch.tv/sameki1024/v/69094957 - Doc vs Olimar 7 v 7 online tournament. We lost... barely, but this should still be valuable to us. Japanese Doc players are much more proficient with their B-reverses and Wavebounces, both of which happen to be useful for Doc because of the way Sheet works in this game. Hope to see more Docs do this stuff.
 

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My latest MDTG (vs. Falcon)


My latest Ph.Destruction (11%-to-Death combo on Corrin)

MD approved?
 

Eight_SixtyFour

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An online Japanese team tournament happened last week. 3/4 (i.e. 3 to 4) players of a character formed a team. I don't know how far the Doc team got, but here is one match from the tournament.

https://youtu.be/yciIEvw5jXs
 
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Eight_SixtyFour

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Here's another set between me and one of Houston's brightest . Critique ? :colorful:
I think some of the things I wanted to say are things you kinda figured out on your own, such as:
1. Not playing passively when Duck Hunt Dog calls the gunman, since it dies really early to almost everything and stays out for a long time and (I think) extends the hitbox of any move that comes in contact with it.
2. Throwing pills to change the direction of the can instead of hitting it physically.
3. Short Hop Rising Back Air when you saw Corrin's Side-B hit the ground.


My suggestions would be the following:
1. Down-B more on stage. It's a nice surprise option. You can also use it to catch landings or burst moves (e.g. Corrin's Side-B).
2. Mix up your landings with Sheet/B-reverse Sheet/Wavebounce Sheet, Down-B, etc. At 2:26, you could have used Sheet or Down-B to make yourself less vulnerable to Duck Hunt's Up-Air juggles. Same thing at 4:50.
3. Up-B OOS more. 1:15 is a really good example of when you could have used it (though judging by the animation, it looks like you tried to but the move didn't come out?)
4. Experiment more with platforms. This is somewhat minor as it is difficult to keep track of in a match, but it might help. At 3:31, you might have been able to fastfall onto the platform after hitting with the up air and then get a quick follow up.
5. Somewhat situational, but if you think that you can't make it in time to punish something with Doc, try to bait the opponent into thinking that you are trying to punish their whiffed attack and then counterattack. At 6:01, maybe wait for the Corrin to Dair if you think they are going to do that, then punish.
6. Sheet near the ledge will cancel the animation, make Doc grab onto the ledge and still hit opponents nearby. Guys like Koolaid and 2ManyCooks usually do this to make Doc less vulnerable when recovering and to conserve their jumps.

And, just for my benefit, are any of your matches streamed, and if so, where can I find it? It's always nice to see more Doc gameplay. :)
 
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Jaguar360

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@2ManyCooks made a really helpful guide on edgeguarding low recoveries. Only covers some characters' recoveries specifically, but some of these techniques are pretty universal.
 

Eight_SixtyFour

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxEsEOo83zY - Doc vs Sonic Crew Battle.

This was a lot closer than I thought it would be. Regardless, Sonic is dumb.

Note: I don't know if it's just me, but does anyone else have difficulty watching videos that are directly embedded onto Smashboards threads? For me, the video takes longer than usual to load. If so, please copy the URLs next time.


EDIT: If you guys aren't doing so already, follow 2ManyCooks on Twitter. He posts stuff on Doc, and streams occasionally on EdmontonGamers Twitch Channel. Latest archives are below.

https://www.twitch.tv/edmontongamers/v/76791682

https://www.twitch.tv/edmontongamers/v/76416935
 
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Malle

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I just made a Dr Mario video. He's not really one of my better characters, but there's just something about the good doctor that makes him so hilarious.
 

Dezmu

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Grand finals from Alberta Beat Down!

 
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Eight_SixtyFour

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https://twitter.com/sameki1024/status/787267315947626496 - When this is done, I'll post the video here.

https://www.twitch.tv/jtails/v/89208085
I pop up from 23:00 to 35:00. I know I rolled more than I should have. Any other critiques?
Not bad. Outside of your rolling habit, you did well I think.

  • Practice down-throw -> bair (mid percents) and down-throw Up-Smash (low percents). They are really good against fastfallers/lighter characters and both of them do nearly 20%.
  • When you're near the ledge, use Sheet. It will snap to the ledge and the Sheet will still hit your opponents.
  • Unless you are absolutely sure that your opponent will roll into a Smash Attack, refrain from throwing out Smash Attacks, especially Forward Smash. He is a very safe player, as most good Diddy players are.
  • Try using Tornado if you think your opponent will press a button. It should beat out Monkey Flip.
  • I think you did this once, but mix up your landings with B-reverse/Wavebounce Sheet/Tornado. Try using Tornado if you think they will try to pressure you from the sides.

I think this matchup isn't fun for Doc. Diddy's Fair is really obnoxious. You have to just maximize your damage and hope you kill him via grabs or edgeguards. But thankfully Diddy can't kill as early as Doc.
 
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