TLMSheikant
Smash Master
Oh he meant his air speed. My bad (though he never made it clear with his post).
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I had to play Doom who uses Metaknight 3rd round of brackets that tournament and I 2-0ed him.Actually it's called basic mixups. I rarely zair out of dthrow vs better mks because they know it's coming. We DO have options...we simply DI down, hold shield and punish the nado.
Not 100% sure but I think we can even zair and then hold shield?? Maybe not.
Anyways, it sucks that I never get vids up when I'm playing my best. Me vs. Inui last night would've helped...
Still a hopeless matchup...but I guess not as bad as D3 DK. I'll say 65-35.
Last 3 or 4 tourneys...I've only lost to MK's
Proof that toon link can't be beaten without MK's:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=264323
I was actually talking about a post on Page 1. Silly me never noticed that post was on Page 3. =POh he meant his air speed. My bad (though he never made it clear with his post).
*Chip's ideaI liked Quivo's idea of throwing a bomb backwards and back airing our way back, but I think it's better to just keep the bomb.
From the old thread...I've seen no discussion on the topic of avoiding some of mk's moves...
I'd say my opinion has slightly changed. I think his onstage game is a lot better than what I thought. All MK has to do is put you in the air. So if we're trying to be super safe in our shields, we're gonna get grabbed. And when you get grabbed, you're gonna get hit.Onstage we stand a chance with our projectiles. Especially bombs. You need to predict when you'll get shuttle looped and iBomb. iBomb is veeeery important in this matchup. The only reason it's in mk's favor is offstage game. You're probably gonna get gimped. It's not hard. When recovering, throw bombs and boomerang to stop yourself from getting gimped, or try throwing a bomb backwards and bairing back on stage. When you get dthrown, DI down and zair MK so you don't get comboed. If you're by the edge, DI down and zair so you'll tether the edge, but immediatley tap z again so you'll pull up to the stage. When they're spamming grounded shuttle loop, run behind it and bair them. When they tornado you, shield and tilt up so you don't get shieldpoked. Don't airdodge when recovering or they'll wait for it and gimp you. Just think about how predictable airdodging is.
1. Turn around and bair when recovering.
2. Bombs > Tornado
3. Angled Boomerang > Grounded Shuttle Loop
4. iBomb > Aerial Shuttle Loop
5. Zair > Dthrow
Just think about it, Meta Knight has no projectiles, you have 3 and a hookshot. You just have to predict what Meta Knights gonna do. When you're in the air, always, always, always expect the shuttle loop. A good strategy is air camping and just raining bombs. Watch you're arrow cancels, Meta Knights shield dash is quick. If they get to close, retreat. Better yet, don't stop retreating.
2008<_< better hopethat mk isnt fast enough to tech itTo clear any confusion I was referring to something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shqCX-fnSlg#t=4m45s
I have personally never done this (and I am not sure how good Hylian's MK was back then) but this came to mind when I posted earlier..
Its still somewhat risky >_>
I wanted to cry due to how amazing that was. Amazing Toon Link.Ok DTL
Ill do that the...heres Affinity and I playing before his tournament
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWMmyro9sYA